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Who is better?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by DeAleck, May 21, 2012.

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Who is better?

  1. Kevin Durant now

    67 vote(s)
    41.6%
  2. Tmac at his prime

    94 vote(s)
    58.4%
  1. Kate81

    Kate81 Member

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    This is a great poll, I don't know who to vote for.
     
  2. krnxsnoopy

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    You are wrong.

    Wade shot 46.8% in the FINALS series, not 49.5%. Not sure where you got that figure from? Did you not see this link? http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playof...Performances-1

    In the playoffs that year, he shot 42.9%:
    Code:
    Season Age Tm Lg G MP FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA ORB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS FG% 3P% FT% MP PTS TRB AST 
    2006-07 25 MIA NBA 4 162 36 84 0 5 22 32 7 19 25 5 2 23 13 94 .429 .000 .688 40.5 23.5 4.8 6.3 
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wadedw01.html


    Jordan also shot 42.7% in the 1998 Finals and 45.6% in the 1997 Finals.

    Tmac's PER in the playoffs was: 26.8 in 2001, 25.6 in 2002, 27.0 in 2003, 27.2 in 2005.

    Code:
    Season Age Tm Lg G MP PER TS% eFG% ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV% USG% ORtg DRtg OWS DWS WS WS/48 
    2000-01 21 ORL NBA 4 178 26.8 .483 .423 3.4 11.6 7.4 36.7 2.0 1.9 5.4 36.6 110 114 0.5 0.0 0.5 .138 
    2001-02 22 ORL NBA 4 178 25.6 .553 .489 3.9 11.7 7.9 29.3 0.6 2.7 10.5 33.8 108 108 0.5 0.1 0.6 .158 
    2002-03 23 ORL NBA 7 308 27.0 .561 .497 3.9 14.1 9.1 26.4 2.5 1.7 11.6 34.9 110 105 0.8 0.3 1.2 .181 
    2004-05 25 HOU NBA 7 301 27.2 .556 .506 5.0 15.8 10.5 33.2 2.0 2.7 11.8 34.7 114 113 0.9 0.1 1.0 .165 
    
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mcgratr01.html


    Durant had a PER of 24.1 in 2011, and has a PER of 26.5 so far in this years playoffs.

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    Season Age Tm Lg G MP PER TS% eFG% ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV% USG% ORtg DRtg OWS DWS WS WS/48 
    2009-10 21 OKC NBA 6 231 16.6 .499 .390 3.8 18.4 11.0 13.4 0.7 2.8 12.8 34.0 98 106 -0.1 0.3 0.3 .054 
    2010-11 22 OKC NBA 17 722 24.1 .582 .503 3.0 18.8 11.1 13.3 1.2 2.0 9.1 29.0 119 107 2.6 0.6 3.3 .217 
    2011-12 23 OKC NBA 9 366 26.5 .602 .541 1.3 21.5 11.8 15.8 1.8 2.2 12.7 30.0 113 102 1.3 0.4 1.7 .219 
    
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duranke01.html

    For shizz and giggles let's see Durants FG% in the playoffs. 44.9% last year and 48.8% this year. But I guess we can round up since we all hate McGrady. :rolleyes:

    Give credit where credit's due.
     
    #62 krnxsnoopy, May 22, 2012
    Last edited: May 22, 2012
  3. VBG

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    Dallas was down by 15 with 5 minutes left against OKC last year and then won?
     
  4. rockbox

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    You can't compare finals numbers against first round numbers. The intensity is different and the quality of the opposing teams are different. I'm using season numbers because they are normalized for the most part.
     
  5. VBG

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    Well, T-Mac had less help than pretty much any other superstar when he was in Orlando
     
  6. krnxsnoopy

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    You're using numbers skewed to help your "argument".

    Compare apples to apples, not apples to oranges. Who cares what regular season stats are? They're completely irrelevant. When the playoffs start, its a brand new season. It doesn't matter what you do in October or November, what matters is April, May, and June. You're talking about championships. Championships aren't won in the regular season, they're won in the playoffs.

    Everybody knows Tmac always brought it in the playoffs. So since this is Durant vs Tmac thread. The stats of the two in the playoffs is extremely relevant.

    As it stands, your basis for taking Durant "anyday of the week and twice on Sundays" on the grounds of efficiency and FG% is flawed and misleading.
     
  7. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    This isn't about that. This is about what it takes to win a championship. You need the guy taking the majority of your shots to be efficient or you aren't going anywhere. Durant is more efficient than TMac, therefore Durant is better than Tmac. I'm not saying Tmac wasn't a very good player in Orlando. I'm saying a team led by Durant has a chance at a championship while a team led by Tmac doesn't. History supports my argument.
     
  8. krnxsnoopy

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    I just noticed the irony of this statement. lols
     
  9. krnxsnoopy

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    I'm going to lunch. Be back in an hour. Please use logic and reasoning when responding to avoid contradicting yourself.
     
  10. MorningZippo

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    How easily people forget. T-Mac was quick as a cat and was better at creating off the bounce. His handles and vision were out of this world for a 6-8 guy. KD is a better shooter and possibly better rebounder. I'd give the slight edge to T-Mac. It's very close though.
     
  11. VBG

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    Pierce shot 44% and 43% when the Celtics made the NBA finals. Kobe shot 45.7 and 45.8% when his team won the NBA championship lately.

    Tony Parker shot 48% but he doesn't really shoot 3s.
     
  12. goodbug

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    Dallas isn't exactly a lesser team. They are a championship team and they had a higher seed. How does that compare to 2006 Jazz?


     
  13. KingCheetah

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    How the hell is Tracy winning this poll? If the votes keep going his way it will be the first thing he ever won.
     
  14. VBG

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    15 points up with 5 minutes to go is pathetic anyway you cut it.
     
  15. TheFreak

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    We do know that McGrady doesn't like when other people handle the ball. We know that because it happened in Houston with Adelman and he complained that he wasn't getting enough touches. He didn't want to play in an offense where the ball was shared. That's a fact.
     
  16. Zackery

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    Could T-Mac do what Durant did tonight. I don't think so, not even in his prime.

    And oh, that's right, T-Mac never made it to this far in the Playoffs.
     
  17. OlajuwonFan81

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    Did you watch Tmac against the dallas mavericks about 7 years ago, especially the 1st 2 games? He was an absolute beast just like Durant. You people with short term memory make me laugh.
     
  18. VBG

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    http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200104280ORL.html

    T-Mac - 42 points, 10 assists and 8 rebounds, 3 steals, 2 blocks against the Bucks in the playoffs.
     
  19. VBG

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    Also, if you watch the defense other teams played against Orlando, it's not even fair. It is T-Mac vs the other team.
     
  20. RedNation

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    I guess you didn't watch tmac in his prime, then. I feel bad for you. He was amazing to watch
     

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