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What Taiwan Wants!

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  1. Lil

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    Best damn article I've read all year!

    And the cover of Time Asia to boot! Rock on!

    http://www.time.com/time/asia/covers/501040315/story.html
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    What Taiwan Wants
    By Andrew Perrin

    Posted Monday, March 8, 2004; 21:00 HKT

    When talk-show host Wang Ben-hu comes to town, even Taiwan's coldest winter in 10 years cannot keep the crowds at home. Wrapped in thick coats, scarves and woolen beanies against a chill wind blowing off the South China Sea, at least 3,000 residents of fishing village Tungkang huddle in the courtyard of a centuries-old Taoist temple, temporarily converted into a television studio. As if on cue, the biting wind abates, and Taiwan's most provocative TV celebrity appears with a microphone to mingle among his fans. Wang doesn't mince his words: "You people were once treated no better than dirt," he says. "You were looked down upon. Mistreated. Abused. Ignored. But now you are like shining doves leading the way forward for Taiwan." The audience rises to its feet, everybody¡Xmen, women, young and old¡Xprofessing their love for Taiwan and their hatred of China, communism and anyone who supports the idea that Taiwan, an island of 23 million people that China claims as its 23rd province, is anything other than a sovereign nation.

    Welcome to Taiwan's deep south, which has long had a mind of its own. It is rural, underdeveloped, and populated largely by native Taiwanese, not the mainland Nationalists who fled the Communist takeover of China in 1949 and who are concentrated in the urban, industrial north, particularly the capital, Taipei. Southerners are bitter about having been marginalized, and resent what they regard as the hijacking of their island by the mainlanders, whose obsession for decades has been to one day reunify with China under the Nationalist banner. Now, however, the south's independent streak is no longer an isolated phenomenon, but growing into an island-wide movement that is defining the presidential election taking place on March 20 and threatening to dangerously escalate tensions between the island and the mainland. "The north is the Republic of China," says Wang, 51. "Up there they are still debating whether Taiwan is part of China. But the south is the Republic of Taiwan. People here don't care what China thinks. To us, Taiwan is an independent country. It is home. And now the south's voice is finally being heard."

    In Taiwan today, fewer and fewer people see themselves as Chinese. According to an annual poll taken by Taipei's Chengchi University, the proportion of Taiwan's residents who consider themselves exclusively Chinese has plummeted to 10% from 26% in 1992, while the number who think of themselves as exclusively "Taiwanese" has jumped to 42% from 17%. Meanwhile, a November poll by the island's Mainland Affairs Council reveals a similarly negative response to China's only model for reunification: the Hong Kong formula of "one country, two systems." Just 7% of respondents found that formulation acceptable, while 71% considered it unsuitable for Taiwan. Analysts on the island agree that China largely brought this problem upon itself. By blocking Taiwan's entry into almost every international organization and isolating the island diplomatically, all the while threatening it with military action if it goes its own way, China allows itself to be painted as a neighborhood bully by Taiwan politicians looking to garner support from disaffected voters. For many on the island, the final straw was the SARS crisis early last year, when China blocked World Health Organization (WHO) officials from touching down in Taiwan. The upshot was that in the early days of the outbreak, hospital administrators had to rely on the Internet to find effective measures to control the spread of the virus on the island.

    Never before has Taiwan's status¡Xsovereign state, or exiled government waiting to return to China, or renegade province bracing to be reabsorbed by the mainland¡Xbeen as hotly debated on the island. A big reason is the coming vote. Last July, President Chen Shui-bian was trailing his main opponent Lien Chan, a former Vice President who leads the Kuomintang (KMT), by as much as 15% in the opinion polls. Now they're neck and neck, largely because Chen and his Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) have made Taiwan's identity the cornerstone of his re-election bid. Two weeks ago, when Chen organized a "Hands Across Taiwan" event to promote "Taiwanness," up to 2 million people linked up island-wide and shouted slogans such as "Yes! Taiwan," "Trust Taiwan," and "Love Taiwan." On election day, Chen is also holding a referendum asking voters whether the island should increase its defense budget if China refuses to remove the 496 missiles it points at Taiwan, and whether Taipei should engage in dialogue with Beijing to establish what Chen calls a "peace and stability framework." Chen says the referendum reflects the deepening of democracy in Taiwan, and that it's the first step to calling another referendum in 2006 to approve a new constitution for the island. All of this moves Taiwan steadily toward self-determination¡Xand possible confrontation with its frustrated and affronted adversary. "China is in an impossible situation now," says Lee Si-kuen, a political scientist at the National Taiwan University who is also a member of the KMT. "Taiwan nationalism has a momentum all of its own that can't be stopped. If you love Taiwan, if you identify as Taiwanese, it follows that you reject China. That's the reality China needs to face."

    The issue of Taiwan's identity has even infused the island's pop culture. In a studio-c*m-hip-hop clothing store in the southern city of Tainan, Tseng Kuan-jung, alias Dog G, 25, writes and records pro-Taiwan rap. The poster boy of the DPP's southern youth vote campaign, Dog G was a struggling musician until he penned "Taiwan Song," in which he raps not in Mandarin but in Taiwanese: "Those without the fear of losing, they are the true spirit of Taiwan; those who don't agree, get out!" Dog G, whose best-selling single tells listeners to "act Taiwanese, speak Taiwanese, and to stand up and proclaim they are Taiwanese," says he wrote that song because he wanted people "to stop being ashamed of being Taiwanese."

    The ethnic balance of Taiwan's politics began shifting in the early 1990s, and the effect of that shift is still being played out today. Lee Teng-hui, who became the island's first native Taiwanese President in 1988, gradually purged mainlanders from the top ranks of his party, the KMT. He got rid of what were called the "old thieves" who occupied the legislature, and made possible the election of new lawmakers, including one who would earn a reputation as an exposer of corruption and a defender of the interests of native Taiwanese: Chen Shui-bian. The media, long under KMT control, grew more liberal and began covering issues such as government corruption and the KMT's enjoyment of special privileges. A parallel change in the island's culture, a flowering of things Taiwan, celebrated these new freedoms: schools began teaching Taiwan's history, restaurants specialized in local dishes, musicians sang about political repression in their native dialect. As Taiwan became more democratic and the majority of its people acquired greater political clout, independence aspirations grew.

    By playing the Taiwan identity card, Chen is not just attracting votes and riling Beijing but changing the island's political culture, too. Before, the battle lines were clearly drawn: Chen and the DPP were pro-independence, the KMT and its allies were in favor of reunification. Now, in order to stand a chance in the election, even the KMT is walking a pro-Taiwan line. The very law that Chen has invoked to hold his referendum on China's military posture was introduced not by the DPP but the KMT. The KMT, Lien told reporters recently, no longer wants to be branded as Taiwan's "reunification party." Eager to convince voters that he is sincere, Lien is using "Taiwan First" as one of his campaign slogans, and a political advertisement is running on Taiwan TV that shows him standing in his "home county" in the south of the island, even though he was born in the mainland. "His father was born here but Lien wasn't. He's trying to portray himself as Taiwanese to win supporters in the south," says Tainan county commissioner Su Huan-chih. "But people down here aren't fooled. They don't trust that his heart is really in Taiwan."

    Taipei resident Chen Pei-jun, a 31-year-old biotech researcher with a Ph.D. from the University of Michigan, is the kind of voter the KMT needs to win back. As a teenager, Chen's heart belonged to China. A brilliant student, she attended the exclusive Taipei First Girls Senior High School, directly opposite the presidential office. In school she learned matter-of-factly that the red brick office, built in 1919 during the half century Taiwan spent under Japanese colonial rule, was occupied by the legitimate government of China. Each morning, on her way to class, Chen reverently observed the President's guards slowly hoisting the red, white and blue Republic of China flag. She shared the KMT dream that one day this flag would again fly over Tiananmen Square. At night she read books by mainland-born writers¡Xwistful childhood memoirs set in Hunan or Fujian or Shanghai. "I wept," she says. "Their experience became my experience. Their China was my China. I longed to return. I was the perfect Chinese." Today Chen is remodeling herself as the perfect Taiwanese, and has given up on reunification. Her transformation began when she went to the U.S. in 1995 to study. On campus, she met students from the mainland and realized she had nothing in common with them, and bristled when they described Taiwan's President as a "provincial governor." In her spare time she read books about the island and its history, written by exiled dissidents, which were not available in Taiwan. Since returning from the U.S. in 2002, two years after the KMT was first knocked from power by the DPP, she has been filling in the gaps of what she calls her "missing years." "The KMT lied to me," she says. "I was brainwashed. They made me think I was Chinese just to further their own ends. I'm not. I'm Taiwanese."

    China is out of step with these developments. It still views President Chen Shui-bian as an aberration, as if removing him from office will turn back the clock and roll forth the forces of reunification. Yet Taiwan's clear democratic desire today is to eschew the embrace of the motherland. To Beijing, therefore, the KMT's conversion¡Xgenuine or not¡Xis a surprising, and potentially disastrous, development. Though the Communists and Nationalists were adversaries, they at least shared the same goal: reunification of China and Taiwan. Not anymore. The KMT is now, at best, the party of the status quo, well aware that plumping for closer ties with China is a sure vote loser. "The issue of reunification cannot be answered at this time," Lien Chan told Time in a recent interview. "The interests of Taiwan must be considered first." This means Beijing is in a bind even if Lien is victorious. "The Chinese leadership had expected Chen Shui-bian to try to win the election by opposing reunification," says an adviser to the mainland's Foreign Ministry. "But it's deeply concerned to see the KMT following suit." Says National Taiwan University political scientist Lee: "The only two ideologies in Taiwan now are independence and the status quo¡Xreunification is dead."

    China has made no secret of its anxiety about the election. When the National People's Congress opened in Beijing last week, Premier Wen Jiabao reiterated his offer to hold talks with Taipei if it accepts the "one China" principle, but he emphasized that "we stand firmly opposed to any form of separatist activities aimed at Taiwan independence and will never allow anyone to split Taiwan from China by any means." But the Chinese leadership doesn't know how to blunt Taiwan's growing sense of its own identity. In the past, it tried to cow Taipei by hurling invective, or¡Xin 1996¡Xby launching missiles into the Taiwan Strait. But during the last presidential election in 2000, Beijing's bluster backfired, helping Chen win office by making him seem like a plucky hero willing to confront the playground bully. Since then, China has been exerting its economic rather than military muscle. In a bid to win over the island's business community¡Xwhich prevalently favors the political status quo but closer economic ties with the mainland¡XBeijing has welcomed investment from Taiwan and pushed for direct transport links. It has also lobbied governments that have influence over Taipei, such as the U.S. and French, to tell Chen to cool it. This approach has yielded some dividends for China. In December, President George W. Bush emerged from a 40-minute White House meeting with Premier Wen and declared that the U.S. opposes any move by Chen that unilaterally changes the status quo¡Xa neat irony, given America's simultaneous enthusiasm for bringing democracy to Iraq. The following month, when Chinese President Hu Jintao was in Paris, his French counterpart Jacques Chirac joined the chorus of China well-wishers, and he called Taiwan's referendum a "grave mistake."

    But even international pressure is not as effective as it used to be, not least because as Taiwan becomes a more mature democracy, its leaders¡Xwhether from the DPP or the KMT¡Xmust increasingly heed the views and needs of the majority of the electorate. With the "one country, two systems" model looking more and more unacceptable, China's best bet of cajoling Taiwan into submission might be the rich promise of economic integration. Yet even as Taiwan investment in China has swelled to a cumulative total of some $100 billion by some estimates, independence sentiment rises. A more flexible Beijing might try to offer additional sweeteners to Taipei. A foreign-policy expert in the Chinese capital suggests, for instance, allowing Taiwan to join some international institutions such as the WHO. This election "should be an overdue chance to adjust Taiwan policy," he says, "but that's not happening."

    Instead, Beijing can only hope that the KMT wins¡Xand ready its military so that it has an alternative means of ensuring that the independence movement doesn't go too far. Beijing has never ruled out retaking Taiwan by force, and years of double-digit growth in the mainland's defense spending have finally made this a feasible strategy. By settling almost all their border disputes, China's leaders can now target the country's military investment on two goals: attacking Taiwan, and deterring U.S. involvement in the conflict. Over the past 18 months, observers have detected a sharp uptick in China's military shipbuilding, especially of submarines and of amphibious landing craft capable of ferrying 400 soldiers and 30 tanks across the rough Taiwan Strait. Even more important is new technology to target U.S. aircraft carriers based in Japan. Defense experts believe China is still a decade away from being able to land troops on Taiwan's fortified shores. Nonetheless, says a Western diplomat in Beijing, "for the first time China's political leaders are at the point of having a credible military option."

    China is unlikely, of course, to attack Taiwan militarily¡XBeijing would have too much to lose. But by showing that it has the capability to do so, it hopes to chill Taiwan's independence movement. Such brinkmanship won't work if the southern village of Tungkang is any barometer. TV celebrity Wang Ben-hu is winding down his show, but the audience is still charged. The crowd becomes so emotional that security guards muscle in to try to calm people down. An old man seated in the front row, no longer able to contain his feelings, rises to his feet and shouts, "China is China. Taiwan is Taiwan." For the first time in history, perhaps, that is something that Beijing¡Xand the rest of the world¡Xmight have to come to terms with.

    With reporting by Matthew Forney/Beijing and Joyce Huang and Donald Shapiro/Taipei
     
  2. KingCheetah

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    Cliff notes. ;)
     
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    I think I said it in a different thread on the same topic but IMO this whole China Taiwan thing is ridiculous. I don't see why they can't let it go and recognize that each are independent countries. So what if they are culturally and ethnically similar or once part of a unified government. Britain and Canada were once the same country, and like stubborn KMT Nationalist and PRC Communists, the Queen still harbors the illusion that Canada is still part of the UK. The fact that Blair couldn't call upon the Canadians to fight in Iraq shows that they are independent and other than that there are no problems between Canada and the UK recognizing each other as independent.
     
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    The chief editor of the Economist said the pro-seperatism party is probably gonna lose the coming election on Mar 20th. Taiwanese want jobs, they want better communication and transportation with mainland, and they want to be free of the astronomical debts bulit up by the impotent pro-seperatism ruling party in the last several years. Native Taiwanese all came from Mainland originally, and nearly half of Taiwanese are not in favor of disowning their ancestry. There is much closer ties between Chinese Taiwanese and mother China than the artical depicts. March 20th will show what Chinese Taiwanese wants, not some one-sided reports.
     
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    "Native Taiwanese all came from Mainland originally..."

    INCORRECT. Aboriginal groups on Taiwan are "Native Taiwanese" and did not come from China. Based on linguistic anthropological evidence, they are Austronesian.
     
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    The true aborigines in Taiwan comprises only 1.4% of the population, The so called Native Taiwanese, in Taiwan society's usage, mainly refers to the other Chinese that migrated to Taiwan before the 1945 migration wave. These "Native Taiwanese" from China call themselves as the locals, and call the Chinese who came after 1945 as the outsiders. While Taiwan was returned to China as a reward of beating Japan in WWII, the Outsiders are often depicted as foreigners who came to oppress the locals, who are Chinese trying to take Taiwan away from the locals. It's like the Americans that migrated to Texas before 1900 calling themselve the Native Texans, and view the Americans that came afterwards as Outsiders. After the framework of Natives vs. Outsiders and Taiwanese vs. Chinese established, then making the Outsiders/Chinese the scapegoats of blame, fanning hatred towards them, and consequently making Chinese looking bad is relatively easy work. The Natives vs. Outsiders and Taiwanese vs. Chinese framework has turned the concept of Chinese Taiwanese mutually exclusive. It's either A or B, and never AB. It's like one can only choose to be either an American or a Texan, never an American Texan. That's the way it's been deployed by the Taiwan seperatists. The Taiwan society is aware of such divisive strategy at working, but they haven't done a good job of fighting it down.

    The Taiwanese seperatists are Chinese descendants in Taiwan who were first brainwashed by Japanese towards the end of WWII, following the cultural genocide practices(banning Chinese languages, books and clothes...) during Japan's occupation of Taiwan. Despite the fact that their ancestors are Chinese migrated to Taiwan, they try to squeeze themselves into the Native Taiwanese group in order to cut off cultural ties to justify their dissection of China and abandoning their Chinese identity. They are brainwashing the Chinese Taiwanese into thinking that their Chinese ancestry is an obstacle to pursue their happiness, and not only abandoning the Chinese nationality is necessary, but also the Chinese ethnicity. Racism alert.

    Also, Austronesian is a group of languages spoken widely in Asia, such as in Vietnam and Cambodia, and Vietnam was once ruled by China. The aboriginal groups on Taiwan came to Taiwan thousands of years ago, it's likely for them to land on Taiwan via the Taiwan straits from mainland which is only about 150 miles wide, then it is for them to sail hundreds or thousands of miles by other routes, given the poor sailing condition back then.
     
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    Just sitting on the sidelines, but I don't see how this is relevant.
     
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    Panda;

    You've raised some good points but I would still disagree with your general point that since Taiwanese are ethnically and culturally Chinese they should be part of the mainland. I see no reason why Taiwan and the PRC can't exist as separate countries. Your argument is basically the same as the Monarchist argument during and following the American Revolution who believed that since the new American states were populated and run by former British citizens and still shared a common language and almost indistinguishable culture the US should've continued to be part of the UK.
     
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    Any Vietnamese reading this would be pretty pissed. Vietnam has been ruled by China but that was so long ago that its the equivalent of saying that Italy once ruled France because France was part of the Roman Empire.

    Unfortunately we Chinese aren't above cultural and historical chauvinism and in the past few decades there has been a big drive in the PRC to make China once again the preeminent Asian economic, political, military and cultural power. This is very visible in the almost manifest destiny like drive to unite what was known as the 3 Chinas (PRC, Hong Kong and Taiwan) back into one entity and also why almost all Chinese are so sensitive about things like Taiwanese, Tibetan or Uighar independence because they consider them as trying to split up what is rightfully China.
     
  10. Lil

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    Panda,

    While your opinion is must surely be expert for an mainland Chinese, I'd think twice about discounting the article as it is written. The reporter writes what he sees, and backs them up with plenty of first-hand quotes and figures from all along the political spectrum.

    And frankly, it rings true with me. And I think I hang around quite a bit more Taiwanese people.

    Regardless of whatever brainwashing conspiracy theory you may come with up, there is no denying the fact that, right now, the overwhelming majority of Taiwanese wants one thing, and that's having as little to do politically with China as possible. Read the article!

    And instead of blaming it on us the Taiwanese people, you and your own govt might consider taking a good long look in the damn mirror.
     
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    I think I said it in a different thread on the same topic but IMO this whole China Taiwan thing is ridiculous. I don't see why they can't let it go and recognize that each are independent countries.

    I dunno... The North certainly didn't let it go when the South wanted to do the same here. Obviously, we sympathize with Taiwan because of their Democratic ideals, but I can understand why the "parent" country wouldn't want to give up its territory (especially when its economically so strong).
     
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    Taiwan and the PRC aren't that comparable with the Union and the Confederacy because part of the problem is that for most of Taiwan's history since 1949 they were governed by the remnant Chinese Nationalist party (KMT) that still considered themselves the rightful government of all of China. The problem with Taiwan independence isn't just that the PRC desperately wants Taiwan back but that the KMT which at least for now is the opposition party, wants Taiwan to be part of China too except with the KMT in charge. This would be the same as if Jefferson Davis wanted the Confederacy to rule the whole US instead of just the Confederate states. The other difference is that both countries have been separate for 55 years and have as of late both have done pretty well for themselves and have strong economic trade ties. Forced reunification will not only costs millions of Chinese lives but will also destroy the economic development of not just the 3 Chinas but almost all of East and Southeast Asia.

    Except for the diplomatic charade that there is only one China Taiwan and the PRC exist as independent countries and are doing fairly well for each other. IMO this should just be accepted.
     
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    I'm not sure the length of separation is a good argument. The Communist party just didn't have the means to take the war over to Taiwan, due to its lack of a navy. Something that is still apparent in China even today.

    So imagine in 1860s, the northern states and the Confederacy had some natural barrier which prevented Lincoln to take back the Confederacy. Would it be wrong for the US to retake the south back 50 years later, when they DO have the technological means to do so?
     
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    The problems with comparing the US Civil war and the PRC Taiwan thing is that they are so different on so many scales. The departure of the Confederacy represented something like 40% of the land area of the US at the time. It also represented a schism regarding both a basic human rights issues, whether slavery would exist as an officially sanctioned practice, and also a basic question about the US Constitution, whether the US was made up of independent states voluntarily bound or whether it was really one country. If the Confederacy had survived its possible that the US as we know it might not have existed because their had been a variety of successionist movements between independence and the Civil War.

    In regards to Taiwan and the PRC, Taiwan's size and population are insignificant to the PRC. The continuing independence of Taiwan has not led to a huge breakdown of the PRC as a country. At the same time the KMT's claim to all of China have been shown to be totally unrealistic.

    Anyway to answer your question directly if the something prevented the Union from recapturing the Confederacy for 50 years I would say that it wouldn't have been a good idea to forcible reunify the Confederacy because in that 50 year timespan a lot of other things might have happened to reshape both the Union and Confederacy just like with the PRC and Taiwan. In the 55 years since that partition both have developed thriving economies, Taiwan is democratic and the PRC is reforming. I don't see any valid argument that says that for the good of one or the other they should be reunified.
     
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    You are mighty quick to accuse others as brainwashed...

     
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    I don't understand why China feels it is worth war to be reunified with Taiwan. What difference does it make if Taiwan is soveriegn? Their business interest are thoroughly intertwined anyway. Is just a matter of face to finally end the civil war between the Ho's communist and Chang Ki Shek's (SP?) nationalist. All those old men are dead. What's worth ruining the entire Asian economic revolution and killing hundreds of thousands of people?
     
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    Just to show that Austronesian languages and China are not mutually exclusive.
     
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    It's different. Saying China ruled Vietnam is like saying Japan ruled Korea, which are all true. China is China, but whether Roman Empire is Italy is another issue. ;)

    The Vietnamese reaction is just your speculation, in fact, I don't think people will be pissed to hear that. If a Manchurian tells me, as a Han Chinese, that they ruled China before, why should I be pissed? It's a fact and it's history. People aren't as narrow minded as you try to make them out to be. Vietnamese should be pissed at you making them out to be in denial of history.

    I doubt very much that you are a Chinese if you think Hong Kong was one China, and that having nostalgia on past glory is chauvinism. The ignorance is just too profound.

    BTW, I don't think you can tie chauvinism towards Chinese's attitude on key sovereignty issues. The things you mentioned don't really measure up to chauvinism. Having ambitions and wanting to reunite the country is chauvinism? I hope you aren't a dictionary compiler.
     
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    The reporter might be saying what he saw and back them up with some figures, but that doesn't mean he's telling the whole picture. Nor can he claim his one-sided report as "what the Taiwan wants". Since when a reporter become the spokesperson of 20 millions people? This is outlandish journalistic exaggeration.

    And BTW, France just kicked Chen Shui Bien's butt.
     
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    The KMT didn't govern Taiwan since 1949. The KMT, founder of the Republic of China, took back Taiwan in 1945, and governed it since, at the time the Republic of China and KMT wasn't the remnant regime but the bona fide government of China. 1949 is the time KMT lost its control over mainland China, fled to Taiwan and was degraded to a regional government in one of China's province, Taiwan. Therefore, the current confrontation between the Taiwan province and mainland is the extension of China's civil war. To use the American civil war as a comparison is appropriate.


    Are you saying that if there is a guy in the South wants to govern the North with his regime, then the North should let the South go independant? That doesn't make sense. If that's not your meaning, then what's the revelance of this dinstinction here?


    The Republic of China is no more a country, it doesn't have a seat in the United Nations and most of the countries in the world doesn't recognize its existence. And even if the Republic of China was a country right now, it's a country found to serve the interest of Chinese, and found on China's land. The Republic of China, therefore, must conform to the will of 1.3 billion Chinese to fulfill its mission.

    Given enough time, China will slowly and peacefully draw back Taiwan with her economic and cultural magnetism, China is not keen on fighting a war for reunification. War is the last measure to protect China's sovereignty and the current means to keep seperatism in check. To say that violence shouldn't be used against violations against China's territorial rights is not acceptable.
     

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