why is it that we have so many damn cat haters in here? then, what pisses me off, is that we turn around and b**** about the nba giving us no respect! have any of you stopped and realized that the reason we don't get any is we don't give any! not to other team's players...to our own damn players! this is downright sickening to me. we have guys (you know who you are) who proclaim steve as the franchise, and thus should receive the lion's share of last minute touches. not just in this thread. in MULTIPLE threads. we've got guys who, despite steve's terrible decision making and erratic ball handling in the last 2 minutes of games, still believe he should get the ball to "teach" him to be clutch. so, instead of giving props to the guy who does it better than most guys in the entire nba, we bash him and prop up the guy who has never done it. makes sense to me. and we wonder why we don't get any respect on a national level. it starts at the root, that's why. this is just sickening. and, of course, the same punks that bash cuttino incessantly, refusing to give him credit when it's due, or refusing to acknowledge his end-of-game decision making, will punk out now and show their true yellow colors. go ahead and hide you punks! francis phucked up. big time. but not one thread about that. but had it been cuttino??? oh ****, we'd have had a cuttino roastathon in here. this hypocrisy is disgusting. , really, more like issedoff:. or is there a :middlefinger: ?
verse is right about the respect thing. And I can't believe TheFreak hasn't championed the big contradiction. Every column Fran Blinebury has written this year disrespects the Rockets, beginning with Mobley and Rudy. Fran must be the hero to bashers.
it's a self-fulfilling prophecy, heyp. the more we talk about not getting respect, while not giving credit/respect to those who obviously deserve it, the more foolish we look (and the unis don't help). this is court jesterish to me, really. at least clutch stepped up to the plate and gave cat his props. what we just saw in dallas is YET ANOTHER example of why cuttino is the clutch player on this team. and from now on, you've got my word on it, every time i see a cat roaster, i'm reporting for duty! i can't take this **** any more... give blame when it's due. give credit when it's due. that's all i ask. ***** and for the hou-chron reporters...what are they if not a microcosm of the damn fans?
I think Cato13 touched on the biggest problem we had without Cuttino: it forced us to play Walt in the fourth quarter. Rudy had to use Walt to guard Finley down the stretch, which was absolutely painful to watch. ------------------
OK, you handle the Cat roasters; I've got the Rudy bashers who ignore we are way ahead of schedule and plenty of coaches in this league are praising him. My problem with Rudy bashing is you can find something in every game to disagree with if you look hard enough. But I'll tell, if Rudy was looking over the back of the bashers' solutions, he'd have better arguments for not doing what they suggest. I enjoy figuring out what game time problems Rudy is dealing with and what system he is using to get the most out of his talent. I also enjoy trying to figure out what the other team is doing to stop us. Why watch a game trying to find something to blame on the coach? There is so much more positive stuff to watch, that makes being a fan a lot more enjoyable. Rudy will admit when he made a clear mistake; we don't really need to look for it. He is not like Phil Jackson who only blames his players. [This message has been edited by heypartner (edited March 05, 2001).]
yes, but Stan, cuttino's defense is just horrible i mean, walt's defense has improved what i wouldn't have given to have our franchise player in that game. ------------------ Lt. Roastabotch reporting for duty!
I think you're showing favoritism towards the Cat. Mobes is as likely as Steve to turn the ball over late in the game. They are both very young, well meaning players. They may not be Jordan in crunch time, but if it weren't for either of them, we prolly wouldn't be in alot of games. ------------------ "Roses are red. Violets are blue. I'm a schizophrenic and so am I."
I hope you're being sarcastic. ------------------ "Roses are red. Violets are blue. I'm a schizophrenic and so am I."
This would definately have been a win for us if we had the cat because of his toughness int he 4th. I thought the key to the loss was our defense of Juan Howard in the first quarter. He was scoring at will and allowed the mavs to stay in the game. The way we have been winning over the last few weeks have been by blowing the other team away in the first two quarters and crusing the rest of the way. ------------------ Tennessee is a suburb of Houston. Go Oilers....
gr8-1, how am I showing favoritism towards cat. Am I wrong, or does Steve turn the ball over twice the amount of times cat does. Steve, especially of late, dribbles too carelessly with the ball and often loses it off his foot. I seem to remember him doing it last year against SA in overtime. Remember, the game Cat sent to OT with a huge jumper with 6 secs to go. Steve has had his chances over the last two years, and he has yet to produce anything that renders him a clutch player. Once again, no favoritism towards cat in this thread. ------------------ "GiddyUP!!!" Krammer from Seinfeld
Maybe we did miss Cat and maybe we didn't. What if he had a bad shooting night then Hakeem might not have had a big game and we may have gotten beat even worse. But I think this game was winnable just defense, free throws and certain lineups killed us. ------------------ Arkansas' Biggest Rocket Fan!
Freethrows, defense, and lineups are a big part of the game, about 85% of it. ------------------ "GiddyUP!!!" Krammer from Seinfeld
gr8-1, how can you say the cat is as likely to turn the ball over as steve? how many times has cat made the right decision vs. the wrong decision? how many times have we seen steve dribble off his foot? are his DMXs 1 size too big? cat is not as likely to turn the ball over. his dribbling is much more secure. his shot selection is much more conservative (that's right!). and his passing has been much more precise. his game, in the final 2 minute of the game, is much more polished than steve's. funny how RockenRam5 is showing favoritism, when you won't even acknowledge the cat's prowess. is that not hypocrisy at it's best? might as well have been said by the gr8-1: "you're showing favoritism because you like cat. but he isn't that good. he's no better than francis."
i don't mean to jump down your throat gr8-1, it's just that i believe we need to acknowledge who our go to player really is. now, when he isn't available, yes, it should go to steve. but you just saw - again - why steve is the 2nd option.
Maybe I misunderstood the question at hand. You're right, in the clutch, Mobes has proven to be the better player. But, Mobes has made a couple of iffy decisions himself. I guess, the way it looks when Cat makes a mistake is that he was trying to be a glory hog, not a team player. When Steve makes a mistake, it looks as if he's trying too hard or he is pressing. That's unfortunate that it looks that way. I think both guys just want to win. As for a pure TO standpoint, Steve does bring the ball up a little more then the Cat, so I think that is a good excuse. ------------------ "Roses are red. Violets are blue. I'm a schizophrenic and so am I."
Your comment sounded almost as vehement as some of our harsh comments about the Cat. But, you're right, Steve isn't really a clutch player, yet. I think he's a good player if you go buy pure stats, but no, he isn't a clutch player. ------------------ "Roses are red. Violets are blue. I'm a schizophrenic and so am I."
Verse has made the most sense and all I know is CAT is very much missed. I really and truly believe he could have been the difference. ------------------ Sometimes you gotta do the next best thing!
gr8-1: by definition, you are right about francis bringing the ball up more than mobley, seeing as how he is the point guard. however, here's something for you to look for next game: notice when the opposition presses, who is responsible for bringing the ball up? i've noticed that it is customary for steve to give the ball up to cuttino. part of it is because cuttino is a little taller. part of it is because the ball stands a good chance of being swung back around to steve. however, IMO, most of it is because cuttino is a better (read: more secure) ballhandler under pressure. btw, thanx ROXRAN. i miss the cat, too. [This message has been edited by verse (edited March 05, 2001).]
