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Wal-Mart Going Preppy?

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  1. Lil Pun

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    I wonder how this is going to work out...


    Wal-Mart Going High Fashion? In Talks to Acquire Hilfiger Brand.

    It has been a turbulent few months in the world of fashion. First, Wal-Mart (NYSE:WMT - News) dropped a bombshell, with its eight-page ad insert in the September issue of Vogue, the fashionistas' bible. Now, the buzz is that the world's largest discount retailer is in talks to acquire fashion icon Tommy Hilfiger.

    Spokeswomen from both sides aren't denying the reports, only declaring they won't comment on rumors. Says Pam Danziger, founder of Unity Marketing and author of Why People Buy Things They Don't Need: "After proclaiming their entrance into the fashion world with the Vogue ad, this is a logical step for Wal-Mart."

    Wal-Mart never does anything in a small way, and if the speculation is on target, this could be its latest step in an aggressive move to go upscale. CEO H. Lee Scott Jr. gave investors signals that a deal like this could be coming. At the annual meeting this year in Bentonville, Ark., Scott lamented that many customers shop for basic goods like food and paper towels at Wal-Mart but go elsewhere for apparel. "What we've got to do is make sure that those customers aren't bypassing (our) other departments," he said (see BW Online, 9/22/05, "Wal-Mart's Scott: "We Were Getting Nowhere").

    BEEFING UP BRANDING. Wal-Mart's ads in Vogue are slated to run for 18 months, according to Director of Corporate Communications Gail Lavielle, who says they're "designed to show that Wal-Mart is trend-right and fashion-forward." And the chain has already started targeting the higher-income demographic by selling high-end electronics like home entertainment systems and plasma TVs.

    If the Hilfiger deal comes through, some wonder if it might just be the first among several high-end brands that Wal-Mart may add to its stores. "After all, Wal-Mart has already conquered the world and put the small guys out of business. Why not move upscale now?" asks Alan Siegel, chairman of brand-strategy firm Siegel & Gale.

    The retail giant is already beefing up its brand and marketing departments. In April, it promoted John Fleming to chief marketing officer. Fleming had spent 19 years at cheap-chic retailer and archrival Target (NYSE:TGT - News), where he was responsible for the famed fashion divisions, among other things. And on Aug. 31, Wal-Mart hired away Stephen Quinn, the chief marketing officer of PepsiCo's (NYSE:pEP - News) Frito-Lay division, to develop Wal-Mart's marketing strategy and brand development.

    FADED TOMMY. Tommy Hilfiger would give Wal-Mart an entry into the rarefied world of designer chic, especially among the sought-after younger demographic. "Wal-Mart is certainly looking to hitch its wagon to a brand that can lead it to an upscale consumer base," says Robert Passikoff, president of strategic brand consulting firm Brand Keys.

    Hilfiger was already on the auction block, having hired investment banks J.P. Morgan Chase (NYSE:JPM - News) and Goldman Sachs (NYSE:GS - News). It has been struggling to regain its luster as a cutting-edge preppy brand, but sales and profits have sagged.

    "The Tommy brand has lost a bit of its luster," says Wendy Liebmann, president of WSL Strategic Retail, a retail consultant. For its fiscal year ended March 31, 2005, Hilfiger's sales topped $1.78 billion, down from $1.87 billion in the previous year. It reported income of $92 million, compared to $170 million in fiscal 2004.

    JUST LIKE TARGET? Yet integrating the brands could pose a challenge. After all, women's Hilfiger cardigans average $60, while the most expensive sweater at Walmart.com is $19.94. Much would depend on how the deal is put together.

    It would also be interesting to see what an acquisition would mean for the Hilfiger line, which is carried by innumerable specialty stores internationally. Hilfiger might be able to retain its licensing agreements with multiple retailers if founder Tommy Hilfiger decides to design a special line for Wal-Mart and keep his current "Tommy" brand intact, much as Isaac Mizrahi and other designers have done for Target.

    Some industry observers speculate that Wal-Mart might do with Hilfiger what Target did with fashion designer Mossimo Giannulli in March, 2000. Target saved Mossimo from possible bankruptcy and guaranteed $28 million in annual royalties for several years. But a Hilfiger deal would have to be more complex. Mossimo was well known mostly in the California design circle -- unlike Hilfiger, which has worldwide renown and cachet. And Hilfiger is nowhere near bankruptcy -- it raked in $74 million in royalties alone in fiscal 2005.

    STEPPING OUT. Investors are rooting for a Hilfiger sale. After sinking to $10.90 a share at the beginning of the year, the stock has rallied 55%, especially after reports that Hilfiger was on the auction block began to spread. It closed Sept. 27 at $17.25, up 26 cents in the last two days of trading since the reports of the Wal-Mart talks. The behemoth's shareholders seem to be blase about the prospect of the megastore snatching up a new accessory -- its stock has barely budged from around $43 over the past few days.

    It's too early to tell whether Wal-Mart can successfully bring some fashion runway pizzazz into its Main Street stores at a price that's both profitable and affordable. But Wal-Mart is clearly on the move. It teamed up with teen magazine ELLEgirl and sponsored a fashion show during New York's Fashion Week at Times Square Studios, where the runway spilled onto the street, allowing pedestrians to watch. Now the trick will be to get those pedestrians into Wal-Mart stores to shop for fashion at "everyday low prices."
     
  2. LegendZ3

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    If I want Tommy, I will go to the mall. Walmart is where I get my 10 dollar working jeans.
     
  3. Dave2000

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    still think that was crazy, but then again, it reminded me of Mossimo going with Target, Starter now with Target/Walmart, but this a company where they can close down their outlet stores, cause you cant get any cheaper than Walmart :p

    Actually I can see it now, the ads show a pair of Tommy Pants "Was $59.99 Rollback price $18"!!!!
     
  4. SirCharlesFan

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    Interesting article. I had noticed over the past couple of weeks that Wal-Mart was running ads in our university newspaper (and I don't remember them before this year) that looked a lot like ads Target would run. I wouldn't mind buying clothes from Wal-Mart if they were of solid quality and looked good. I actually buy quite a bit of clothes from Target. I have purchased Mossimo cargo shorts and a polo shirt from there before. Good clothes for cheap, can't complain.
     
  5. Davidoff

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    Here is to KIA getting bought by Walmart like Tommy will so I can buy a new cheap 4 banger to put needless miles for a few grand..
     
  6. micah1j

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    Maybe Wal*Mart thinks their growth in the low end market is near and end. So they plan on crushing the upper end market competition as well.
     
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    TJ Max baby! .................... :p
     
  8. Vengeance

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    TJ Maxx actually has a lot of nice stuff -- if you want Ecko, Sean John, any of your hip hop brands, there's no where cheaper!
     
  9. surrender

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    I buy my Fubu jeans at Suitmart :cool:
     
  10. JunkyardDwg

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    I hate Walmart and hate that they're trying to be like Target.
     
  11. Xerobull

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    Never been a big Hilfiger fan, but this will put it straight into the toilet, fashion-wise. What kid wants the stigma of buying their clothes from Wal-Mart, regardless of label?
     
  12. Lil Pun

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    Exactly what I was thinking. This is exactly why kids do not shop at Wal-Mart, their clothes are considered cheap and they get made fun of at school, sad but you all know it's true. Unless they keep the price level the same, which I don't see Wal-Mart doing, I also think the Hilfiger brand will take a huge hit.
     
  13. F.D. Khan

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    Ok...so they're buying Hilfiger and they are trying to sell that in Vogue???

    They are wasting their money because most Vogue readers wouldn't buy Hilfiger anyway even if it was advertised there.
     
  14. MR. MEOWGI

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    Joske's rules.
     
  15. A-Train

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    Wal Mart wants their stores to have higher prices and nobody shopping in them? ;)
     
  16. swilkins

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    Shouldn't this have been done long ago? I never hear about Hilfiger anymore.

    But then I'm not trendy person.
     
  17. rubytuesday

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    completely agree. i'm Target only and buy their clothes too. :) i bought a skirt there and all the girls commented on it and i said "target! $20!!!" that always feels nice. :D
     
  18. Drewdog

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    Tommy Hilfiger is sooooooooooooooooooooo 1993.

    Anyone remember those annoying multiple colored plaid shirts they used to sell? Or the ones with one side a solid, and the other a plaid? - yuck.

    How about a rip-off hat from a gas station or Traders Village??
     
  19. Tonaaayyyy

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    hahah! it's annoying back then how some gangsters would wear a big "TH" polo or a t-shirt.. then u look real close and its THH sport or something.
     
  20. MR. MEOWGI

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    Annoying gangsters are the worst kind.
     

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