wake up texas!

Do any NFL teams not have a shotgun formation?

What is Simms gonna do when he runs the shotgun for the first time in the NFL?

The reason UT doesn't use the shotgun is because Simms has difficulty reading defenses. When he's under center, he can see what the defense is doing (shifts etc.)

I'm not saying the coaches don't have confidence in him, but not running the shotgun for him is babyish.

 

Yes.

It was.

Except for the year with Ricky the problems this year are the same problems that Davis has always had. Hell, even the year Davis called plays with Ricky the offense wasn't that great.

The ONLY time we open it up is when we get down by like 10 pts or more - other than that, we play a terrible, terrible offensive game plan.

The problem is Davis and his scaredy cat play calling, it always has been, it always will be. The buck stops there.

Both Simms and Applewhite preferred to take the snap from under center, this is not relegated to Simms alone.

 

they will both lose to Miami in the National Championship Game.

BAM

 

I don't know. What did Aikman do? The Cowboys didn't use the shotgun with Aikman until very late in his career (and after they managed three Super Bowl wins). The scuttlebutt was that Aikman didn't like the shotgun, though he denied that when it was finally installed.

Not to defend Simms or anything, but I thought I'd mention an NFL team that had some success without the shotgun formation.

 

mduke, I see the Sooner Nation is taking care of business against the mighty Tigers of Mizzou.

People in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks. OU sucks. Hybl is going down on the 12th.

 

Yeah. You're one to talk after beating a bad team by 2 points. I didn't know a top 3 team in the nation sucks....but i guess they do if you say they do. "You're Texas"

 

OU might go down tonight

 

And you see where Major is now......

 

Well, at least there's one mention of the game. Funny how this board is dominated by Longhorns...do UT people just happen to be bigger Rockets fans? I don't know. Anyways, it sounded like a good game. I still can't figure out why it wasn't televised. A 48-47 score makes for a pretty good game to watch. And the Aggies didn't only miss the extra point in over time, they also missed an extra point after a touchdown that was scored in the last two or so minutes of the 4th quarter. That miss allowed Tech to send the game into OT with a field goal.

The story of the game is the Tech's absolute dismantling of the Aggie defense. The last time I remember a team completely making the Aggie defense look that bad was the Longhorns in Austin 3 years ago. To the rest of you Big 12 fans...I'd be a little worried about Tech. I would consider any team who can score that many points against the Aggie Defense very dangerous...even if their own defense does suck.

If this game wasn't the nail in RC's coffin I don't know what is. Not that he did a particularly terrible job, but this loss pretty much assures the Aggies' record is going to end up mediocre at best. I think RC had to put together at least a 3...maybe 2-loss season to have any chance of sticking around. That ain't gonna happen.

 

Major,

I have met you in person and really respect you, but come on.

I can buy the offense stuff and the fact OU won last year, but I don't think Mack has done a bad job at Texas(I give Stoops his due, but he is overrated) and there is no way Nate Hybl is even comparable to Simms.

Simms has improved leaps and bounds this year from what I have seen. And he will make a good pro.

Mduke made a crack about OSU, how else am I supposed to defend them as a semi-decent team. And they are not Kansas-Baylor bad.

As far as the series, OU beat our ass in 2000, but if last year was a not a game that either team could've won, i must've watched a different game.

I suggest you check Mduke's posts in every Texas thread, he has yet to dare talk about the teams, it's just we won last yearso we should win again.

I'm not trying to flame war you Major but this is not me typing without knowledge either.

 

I guess I would have to rephrase that then.




If OU or UT played Miami, they would both lose.

BAAM

 

Because his name is Simms, I guess? Do numbers lie?

They're semi-decent. Not good.

Of course either team could've won...but that really doesn't matter, does it?

Or you could check those same threads where the "We're Texas, so we must be better" attitude is shown by EVERY SINGLE FAN.
You know good and well if UT would've won, you would be doing the same things, but worse. What's the point of a rivalry if there's no bragging rights? Does that only work if Texas wins?

 

Dustin Long for Heisman? Yes, no, maybe?

 

I can buy the offense stuff and the fact OU won last year, but I don't think Mack has done a bad job at Texas and there is no way Nate Hybl is even comparable to Simms.

I agree that Hybl isn't comparable to Simms -- no one was making that comparison, though. mduke has said multiple times that Hybl is not a Simms-type QB. I believe his point was that Simms' numbers aren't Heisman-like, and they aren't. If they were, then Hybl's numbers are better. If you look back at the thread, the Hybl comments started from a comment about Simms' stats and the Heisman. In terms of actual performance (and not reputation), Hybl has been just as good -- or better -- than Simms this year thus far.

Mack's also a good coach, but it's a fact that he hasn't won a championship of any sort yet. When UT fans mock Stoops, why wouldn't an OU fan come back with a shot against Mack Brown?

Simms has improved leaps and bounds this year from what I have seen. And he will make a good pro.

He certainly hasn't looked bad - but he didn't look real bad going into the OU game last year either. He has cut down on his mistakes, but as a result, he's also cut down his willingness to make plays. He still can't/doesn't throw to people in stride very often, which is the biggest reason he doesn't ever get big yardage stats. He has no touch throwing deep - if the receiver's not in perfect position, too bad. He needs to throw the ball with some air so our guys can make plays (as Woods did on that TD throw). He still locks on to receivers, although not nearly as much as last year. My big question, though, is how he'll handle pressure, and we won't know that until OU and even more so (in my opinion) against K-State.

I suggest you check Mduke's posts in every Texas thread, he has yet to dare talk about the teams, it's just we won last yearso we should win again.

Let's see. Looking through this thread, I see mduke rooting on OSU, as would be expected. Then I see UT fans making cracks about OU, and him responding. mduke isn't starting any of this stuff -- it's always UT fans talking about how much better we are than OU. I find that odd given that OU has the upperhand in every respect over the last several years (head-to-head, conf. championships, nat'l championships). I prefer to let the team prove it on the field before I talk trash.

Anyways, it sounded like a good game. I still can't figure out why it wasn't televised. A 48-47 score makes for a pretty good game to watch.

DC, yeah that pissed me off. I really wanted to watch that game. The Tech offense makes Tech one of those teams that can pull crazy upsets or get its ass kicked by weeny teams. It's all about if you can figure out a scheme to guard them. If you can, they suck. If you can't, their offense will roll. It's like there's no middle ground.

On another note, though, the A&M offense might actually have woken up finally. If you guys get an offense to go with the hellish defense, you could get yourselves into the B12 mix, especially not having to play K-State, Colorado or Iowa State, and getting Nebraska at home. I hope y'all (and UT of course) do well so the Thanksgiving game will mean something in terms of the conference championship.

 

So, two wrongs make a right, eh duke???

 

I dont disagree on the Mack Brown thing, major, and never did I call OSU a good to great team Mduke.

We played like **** today. I definitely agree we have underperformed offensively this season. Mangum has to go, Davis needs to open it up, etc, but we won thank god, and that is how I approach it.

And to say Miles is improving OSU is not a big stretch. They hung tough on the road at UCLA earlier this year as well.

As far as talking trash goes, it is the nature of the rivalry now. The game means so much and the teams are so good that while some of the things said are not worth condoning it will continue, win or lose.

I am not growing impatient at UT, but I do feel we should win this year and I am chomping at the bit after the CU game last year.

I haven't made excuses about last year if only to try to shed some of Simms horrible big game level when OU doesn't support it, but it was a game that either team deserved to win, and the player that made the OU defense really go left to the pros this season.

The cards are in our favor, and while anything can happen, I would be more upset then usual with a loss this year.

 

The cards have been in your favor the last 2 years too...just ask Lee Corso