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V-Tech Shooting

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Sishir Chang, Apr 16, 2007.

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  1. Falcons Talon

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    You don't have to.
     
  2. DaDakota

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    They can ammend the constitution, so your fix is incorrect.

    DD
     
  3. weslinder

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    If either of you live in CHL state, you shouldn't go out much. CHL holders are a significant portion of society now, and you run into them every day.
     
  4. Ottomaton

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    Amending the constitution is a process provided by law. If you amend the constitution, the law changes. Therefore, your objection is not logically valid.
     
  5. Bandwagoner

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    I think the real debate here is a fundamental one of self defense. People do not wish to fight back for some reason.
     
  6. DaDakota

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    Yes, but if the country gets stirred up enough where the silent majority force their elected officials to make that amendment, it will happen.


    DD
     
  7. MR. MEOWGI

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    The illusion of control is a fact.
     
  8. Bandwagoner

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    Control of a mechanical device or a person?

    To clarify my question:

    Do you feel unsafe from an accidental mechanical failure, or a person legally carrying a gun with a CHL commiting a violent crime against you.

    Thanks.
     
  9. Bandwagoner

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    Here is a good example.
     
  10. Ottomaton

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    How does that in any way respond to what I wrote?
     
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    No, people don't want guns going everywhere, we're sorry that we're not looking for handgun duels every afternoon.

    ...Seriously, is it better to have one school shooting? A tragic and unpredictable one? Or hundreds of school shootings, utterly predictable because you're giving out guns to people for "self-defense". Yeesh.
     
  12. weslinder

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    Your so-called silent majority isn't nearly large enough to get rid of the 2nd Amendment.
     
  13. Bandwagoner

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    Please quote me where I am giving out guns. Thanks

    Also while you are looking that up find some stats to backup that people with CHL's commit more violent crimes than people without them. ;)
     
  14. Major

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    Well, either that, or they don't want to have a higher risk of being a victim of random crime that is more likely to occur when there are more guns everywhere. Crazy that people might like to stay alive!
     
  15. Bandwagoner

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    This is based on what facts? Thanks!
     
  16. DaDakota

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    I guess we shall see........and if not than I am willing to exept what the majority wants, are you?

    DD
     
  17. halfbreed

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    Yeah, America is the only place where people kill other people... :rolleyes:
     
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    Dude, you're implying it everywhere, look at your posts. Either you express yourself badly or we're just not understanding each other.

    "Your reaction to my need to carry a gun."

    "Good idea. An armed citizen could have cut this to little to no loss of life."

    "Take away a gun from someone willing to stop a psycho and more people die."

    "How do you fight fire? With your hands? Screw that. My logic is the majority of people like you and me would stop this dip**** by any means needed. Why take that power out of our hands."

    I mean, I'd go on, but your posts pretty much are all self-explanitory.
     
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    Everything. How many of these college kids will have roommates etc? Will these guns start showing up more at parties? It's not as simple as "I have a gun and you don't". I don't care how many classes a person has or how great of a shot he is. The complexities are immeasurable. The chaos theory comes to mind (unpredictability in complex systems).
     
  20. Bandwagoner

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    Which one of these implies im giving out guns? I must have missed it. I am talking about allowing people who have guns and a CHL to carry them.
     

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