He's NFL bound. Plus, that whole Willie Lyles street agent mess. No changes will be made. We're gonna be mediocre for a long time.
You may not understand some of the numbers that go into these rankings. Because of the scholarship limit of 85 and some large prior classes, this class was always going to be small. The fact that the class is so small prohibits it from being high in the overall rankings, despite having the #4 average star rating. I think 2014 could be when we start to really feel some heat on the recruiting tail, but it's really too early to determine that.
The only thing I've been saying all year is that it's time for Mack Brown to go. He has had more talent than just about any head coach in the history of college football and he only has 1 national championship to show for it, thanks to VY. Every UT fan I know and even some of my UT family members all know it's time for Mack Brown to go. You're in the minority if you think he should stay. A very small minority at that.
Right. Last time you said that you proudly sighted a poll in an internet forum from some niche website that had about 5,000 votes. Some of your family members are not a good sample size for one of the top 5 fan bases in the country. I could dig up that website but it's not worth the time. I still don't understand how Mack doesn't get credit because he had VY but other coaches get credit when they have guys like Newton, Bush etc. Let's not forget he got to the championship game in 09 and was within a score in the 4th quarter without his QB. I don't remember if VY played in that season? Did he double for the Titans and the Longhorns that year?
hornfans.com and shaggybevo are niche sites that don't represent the majority of Longhorn fans? The most diehard fans are on those websites. What are you talking about? Hell I don't even know anyone on cf.net other than you who still has a love affair with Mack Brown. You're in the small minority my man and everyone knows it.
2 shots in fifteen seasons is not the goal for Texas. They have first pick in a great recruiting territory, the best in money, facilities, fan and school support. Mack has been great turning the program around from where it was when he got here, but three straight down years is unacceptable. The bar is higher than that, even at places like Auburn where Chizik just got the boot two years from a NC. Shouldn't our bar be higher than Auburn?
What prestigious program hasn't undergone a similar drought? Which ones have been able to avoid even longer droughts completely? Probably none. I'm not a big fan of Brown's coaching but he knows how to win with the right staff in place and he recruits. And the real question is -- can UT get anyone who will be better overall? Not so sure. Texas will bounce back eventually, all great programs do, it'll just take time -- won't matter who's coaching.
The big problem Texas has now is that A&M is going to out recruit them. Sumlin is a great recruiter, the program is on the rise and being in the SEC is just a bonus. Texas is going downhill and A&M is rising to the top. There is a balance of power shift in the state of Texas.
Not really cali boy. Manziel wanted to play at Texas. The problem is the coaching staff didn't want him. Kids wants to play at Texas > Kids wanting to play at A&M. It's all in the coaching staff's judgement of talent.
Once again, Mack Brown exposed. He passed on Manziel? Yes he did. Also, Manziel wanted to play for UT because his parents went there. The A&M football program is on the rise and the UT football program is on the decline. Tinman, you cannot debate that so don't even try.
Just because you say it doesn't make it true. Even after a ****ty loss, Texas just picked up a top 50 player in the country (Demetrius Knox) for the 2014 class. I'm not trying to deny that there are problems with the program, but pointing at current recruiting is silly.
I'm talking about future recruiting. Sumlin said his phone was ringing off the hook after that Alabama win. If anyone here wants to tipjar bet or bet me money directly that A&M will have a better football program than UT over the next 5 years I will gladly accept all wagers.
Don't want to keep harping on this, but 2014 is future recruiting and Texas already has premier talent at key skill positions, the d line and, now, on the offensive line. http://rivals.yahoo.com/texas/football/recruiting/commitments/2014/texas-83 Depending on how you define better program, I wouldn't mind the action. Tipjar only, though.
People assume way too much in terms of how long it takes to destroy a program and how long it takes to rebuild one. OU had a decade of mediocrity and won a national title in Stoops' 2nd year. Pete Caroll, Jim Tressel, Urban Meyer, Nick Saban, and even Gene Chizik all took only a few years to win national titles at their respective schools. Brian Kelly is already a game away at long-time-mocked Notre Dame. Urban Meyer would have been in a title game in his 1st year at Ohio State this year if not for sanctions. This idea that 2 conference titles in 15 years is OK because they got one national title is silly. And the idea that Mack is the best Texas could do is similarly silly - it represents everything wrong with Texas football on the field: a fear of taking chances, etc. If Mack Brown needs great players AND great coaches around him to be successful, he''s not bringing much to the table - and if he's unable to find those great coaches or great players, then he's a net-negative at this point. Lots of people can be successful in that situation.
that's not exactly a gleaming endorsement of Texas' ability to judge talent now, is it? Mack may not have been the problem years ago, but he is now. Three mediocre years in row should NOT be accepted so casually. Poor big game performances, striking out on recruits, terrible player development, etc etc... i'm not sure why it's so tolerated at the richest program in the country. Even after the staff retooling the same issues exist and there's only one true constant and that's Mack. Hell it doesn't even look like the players are all that interested in playing. Just watch the LHN... Mack far too often comes off as nothing more than a figurehead and a politician more than head coach. that said i've heard mack is far too entrenched with the big time boosters to ever get the boot. ideally deloss would retire and Mack would jump into the AD role but i don't see that happening anytime soon.
