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transgendering the kids

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Commodore, Sep 21, 2022.

  1. Commodore

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    This guy should go to jail.
     
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    JK Rowling was right
     
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    Thought experiment of the day:

    Do trans people or right wing social media users discuss trans issues more?
     
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    Based on the trans people I know - right wing social media… I love two people that are trans, one of them I am incredibly close to… and they don’t talk about trans issues and don’t really like all the discussion about it in the media.
     
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    It reminds me of that episode of south park....

     
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    Best I can tell, this isn't really an accurate tweet. There are people that have expressed regret about transitioning, but that doesn't seem to be the case for Avery. I think doctors and families should make the best decisions they can.
     
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    I recently had my healthy lenses replaced with artificial lenses (refractive lens replacement), so I no longer need glasses.

    Even if I were to be unhappy with the results, there is no going back, so at that point, you tell yourself not to have regrets.

    But I'm a grown man in my early 50s, and I (mostly) knew what I was doing.

    There is a reason you protect kids from getting permanent tattoos. It's insane to allow chemical castration and mutilating surgeries on kids.

    Mostly, it's insane leftist mothers who are driving that.
     
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    Oh, I agree it is ideal to wait until someone is an adult to make permanent life choices (though I and many other parents do with circumcision). If my 3rd child had been a boy, I'm not sure I would have done it.

    The hard part is puberty is also permanent. If someone is Male to Female Trans, the puberty blockers are by far the best way to for them to really get to live their lives as females. The sad truth is there are kids getting it that shouldn't, and there are kids who would be better off that aren't. I do think it has to be an absolute malpractice to not visit every non-permanent solution first. Surgery (in particular bottom surgery) can always wait.

    If you think they should wait until they are adults to transition, I think you should be more respectful of them not being passable, even if you think they are just crazy confused people.

    I'll also throw in, I do consider it parental malpractice to put your child out there front and center like that. I know some want to just share their stories with others who may be going through similar things, but it makes your child a lifelong target, with every move followed. It also becomes easy to question the sincerity of what your family is experiencing when you use it to get fame and profit.
     
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    100 %, and that alone shows already that we are dealing with a case of parental mental illness or narcissism.
     
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    Isn't most of the regret stem from not being accepted and the stigma making them regret rather than regretting on the belief they changed their mind they aren't trans?

    Also I don't think it's a good idea to engage atw sincerely on this issue. He's spammed about 10,000 tweets about trans people on a NBA team fan message board. Don't let him believe his addiction to this is normal. Yo are feeding into a mental illness when you engage with him like this in good faith on you part. You have to always have to remind him he's coocoo for coco puffs.
     
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    Right - but there are two issues.

    The first issue is that what was tweeted was completely false, literally made up and now is being passed around as truth by many people.

    That IS a real problem and shouldn't be glossed over.

    As to the second point, I have been very skeptical and outspoken on gender re-assignment surgery and hormone therapy for minors - especially after I dove deep into it. There was and still is very little regulation of it. That does not mean that those (including minors with gender based issues) should not get therapy and if they choose to have surgery as an adult - they should have legal options to do that.

    Western European countries started to back off gender reassignment therapy and hormones as more information became available - and largely avoided political meltdowns over the topic.

    There are larger and more important issues in the USA than whether a small number of people use the restroom other than their sex at birth, or those that participate in sports - yet both sides of the political aisle made it into a large talking point.
     
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    This is absolutely false and spreading misinformation.

    Individual sports leagues with one trans individual sprinkled in very low variance across the country, and individual families who sought our trans treatment, academic niche fields of study of transsexualism is not 'both sides"

    You are basically suggesting the concept of trans people existing is "both sides" here. They have to specially hide well enough where bad faith right wing actors can't weaponize them by merely existing

    The right does not even sincerely care about this issue. The nature of how this became a moral panic was very targeted and purposeful by entities like the dude who created "end wokeness" Jack Posobiec. I can name specific individual humans who made it a targeted campaign. To make this into the national zeitgeist. Same with CRT. This was a very intentional targeted campaign.
     
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    I've heard most of the self reporting that they regret it is because of social stigma and not feeling accepted
     
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