You're an Ignorant hating ass FOOL! You *hitty fans will never be satisfied with any player of any caliber. The best thing would have been for the Rockets organization to move this team in 2002 like they had planned. Trade T-Mac, trade Yao! Hell, trade the whole team for that matter, cuz you guys do not deserve an NBA team.
You really should watch the tape of tonight's Spurs-Mavs game... and then revisit this subject... TMac is an amazingly talented athlete and player, but Manu is also... TMac is more gifted naturally but Manu compensates with his will to win has no match in the whole league... With exactly similar teams ... for Regular Season I would take TMac, but for playoffs and big games.. I would take Manu... no doubt.
I agree as this was a must win for the spurs and without duncan because dallas had spurs number lately and this was a great chance to get dallas back to earth by the spurs, ginobili put up great numbers and also keep SA in game for the hole game putting the most important buckets of the night and drwing critical fouls (many on the offensive end)
I can relate, but just relax and use threads like this for what they're good for: building your ignore list. They're are plenty of good posters who stay out of idiotic threads.
Hey r****d, did'nt you say mcgrady is a stat stuffer?. what did you think all those amazing passes he made. dumbass YOF. it must be killing you to see tracy get a triple double. I said it before. you're a disease. a plague. all you do is bash tracy to propup yao.
Oh,how do you know we never be champ with T-Mac in team?Are you foreteller？He play the game for himself?You must be kidding.Maybe he is the most unselfish superstar in league.Just lock the stupid thread.
I dont wanna bash anyone, but statements like these are simply stupid. Have people forgotten that Manu has a guy named Tim Duncan? Furthermore, to accuse anyone playing in the nba of having no passion to win is simply speaking from their poop hole. Granted, Tmac may not display the exterior fiery passion like Kobe or Manu but that does NOT mean he's not competitive or doesn't care about winning. Haters like you YOF's and TOF's can't see the forest for the trees. Everyone who has ever covered Mcgrady's career or former players who have played with him knows that he STEPS it up the playoffs. Don't listen to the general public media. They and their followers like you belive that. Jon Barry during the Heats game said that Mcgrady CANNOT be blamed for the playoff losses during his tenure with the Rockets. In fact, he brought up the fact that during game 7 of the Jazz series, there were less than 10 possessions that Mcgrady didn't account for his team, whether directly or indirectly. Imao, I bet you guys didn't know that during his last two years in Orlando, Mcgrady led the league in points per 4th quarter So stop hating PERIOD (that goes for everybody). Wait until everything's done then you can say what you want. Jeez. Imao you YOF's especially need to stop sucking on Yao's pRon (euphemism there)
Can people like you stop blaming everyone who criticizes Tmac a "YOF"? How do you know? Maybe someone just has a different opinion than you OK?
T-Mac is a fantastic player. Getting him was a dream come true as a Rockets fan. This team can still attain championship greatness.
playing around trade machine, and this is what i get. p.s. i'm just bored. And it will not happen, unless RA do a lap dance for the maloof brothers. Sacramento Kings Incoming Players: Oleksiy Pecherov, Kirk Snyder, Shane Battier, Brendan Haywood Outgoing Players: Spencer Hawes, John Salmons, Ron Artest Houston Rockets Incoming Players: Spencer Hawes ,John Salmons, Ron Artest, Caron Butler Outgoing Players: Tracy McGrady, Kirk Snyder, Shane Battier Washington Wizards Incoming Players:Tracy McGrady Outgoing Players: Oleksiy Pecherov, Brendan Haywood, Caron Butler
Now replace TMac with Yao if you want this to work. For two reasons, 1. There is no way Ron Artest and Yao is a better combo than TMac and Artest for the Rockets. We are 11-41 without TMac. Ron and Yao both play inside. 2. We are 11-41 without TMac. Without Yao we were 22-10 last year, ENOUGH SAID. Unless Yao can prove he can lead the team, there is no way he is more valuable to the Rockets than TMac is.
It's funny that you have been causally calling other people YOFs or TOFs lately. I hate to lower myself to your level. But if anything, based on your past posts, you are much more a TOF than he is a YOF. Try your mirror at home. It can confirm my observation.
I would trade Tmac for Manu believe it or not. I know Manu's numbers don't match up and he isn't the go to guy in the Spurs, but Manu is a very underrated player. Tmac's health is declining while Manu is still improving every year. Spurs would never do it though, even though Tmac > Manu in value right now. It would disrupt their team chemistry. If Houston did this trade (which would never happen in my lifetime), they are a point guard away from a championship. For all the Kobe lovers out there, yes he can singly beat some teams on his own, but he has proven absolutely nothing. See the lack of rings on his fingers post-Shaq.
A few summers ago I played ball with this guy that was really talented, could score anywhere on the floor, and another guy with a really versitile game that compensated for his lack of athleticism. I got beat the first guy and lost to the 2nd. Manu would be a match up in hell, as would Tony parker. T-mac would be hard to match up against, but you can put a bruiser on him and he wouldn't attack the basket to preserve his health. See Michael Jordan post White Sox.
Dude, in case you haven't noticed I've mentioned both TOF's and YOF's in the same breath everytime, but apparently you biasly and convenently overlooked that fact. Furthermore, I've ripped Mcgrady on more than a couple of occasions, especially about certain part of his game (i.e like jacking up shots). I've also criticized his mouth certain times already. But I don't really care what you think , or anybody else. You can believe what you want, but I know in my heart what I truly desire (and thats simply some postseason success)
Guess you didn't see the Kings game then. Or for that matter either of the Kings games last year. You guys are SEVERELY overrating Manu. There is a reason why the guy is a 3rd scoring option, whereas T-Mac is a 2x scoring champ and arguably the 2nd best scorer in the game today. There is a reason why some consider T-Mac one of the best playmakers in the league. It is no surprise why T-Mac's numbers have always been largely better than Manu's, and why he is considered a top 10 player in almost every poll while Manu is lucky to even scratch top 30. Manu is not a #1 option. He does NOT take it to the rim more often than T-Mac (73% of Manu's offense is jumpshots, whereas T-Mac's at 76%). He is not a player who, if not given a lane to the rim or a wide open 3 like on the Spurs, that he can create something out of nothing for his teammates or himself. His offensive arsenal, while wild and flashy, is not as versatile or effective as T-Mac's is. Unlike T-Mac, you cannot give him the ball 30ft out and expect him to consistently create for himself or others and do it effectively.
Once again-even though I hate to have to defend myself like this-I also get pissed off at people who rip on Yao when its unnecessary and unmerited too. I call them TOF's too. Whats the definition of a TOF/YOF? To me, those are people, as I stated above, who will attack Tmac and Yao unfairly and for no apparent reason. (Like the "trade Tmac/Yao" threads) Thats why I would prefer it if our two superstars weren't superstars. I'd actually prefer it if they would be under the radar, so that we wouldn't have any preferential fans like these, and just focus on the TEAM
