To all those whining...

I'm wit chew you, k8. I think Rice was one of the best decisions with what thay had available. However, Our defense must be a PRIORITY! We have to learn to play as a team, now, with the new rules. Which means, not just 1 player can be a good defender(Shandon), EVERYONE has to STEP UP. If only 1 of our leaders would challenge themselves to make the All-Defense 1st Team then everyone would follow his example.
Stevie Wonderful, did you hear that?...PLEASE!...Pretty please!...hello....is this thing workin?(tap,tap,tap)

 

I'm in Hornets country and watched a lot of Bugsball (admittedly) a few years ago. Here's the thing: RICE IS A BASKETBALL PLAYER.

He is well-rounded. Admittedly, defense is his greatest liability, but he can post-up, handle the ball, rebound some, and shoot the damn lights out.

He also has one of the better shaved heads in the NBA. If he doesn't fall into the grips of the headband crowd, I will love watching him in our PJs-- as much as that is possible.

 

i find it hilarious when people take this things so seriously. let em whine or b**** or start redundant threads, how does it make your life any more harder to bear?
the funniest are those pack of gangs that respond to a thread they deem undesirable by blacklisting the thread starter. 'oh another one to add on my ignore list'.
the bbs is full of basketball snobs.

 

KR-
I'm not a GM so I don't honestly know who may/may not be available especiallyin a S&T for Anderson or any of the other crap which we have availalble (Cato, Walt) or KT.
Personally I wish we would have gone after Anthony Mason. SAR was also availalble before the draft day trade.
Rice is a good ball player, I agree. However we have a glaring hole for a low-post defender and for someone to step up to become a perimeter defender (I sytill hope Stevie and Cat figure out you need to work hard defensively to win).

 

Hakeem Olajuwon.

 

This BBS is good because the best posters on this board state an opinion and back up their responses with facts. Even the ones that don't back their statements up with facts initiate dialog for those that want to debate it. When someone starts a thread that says "Cato sucks".... um, ok, so now what? This BBS is also good because we happen to have people that run around getting scoops and inside stories before the freaking news media does. The best Rockets coverage of the RMR and Cali summer league came from this board. We don't want to lose those people that add to these type of scoops by having them get tired of the same ol' same ol' bs.

Do you ever frequent the ESPN boards? It's crap. ESPN is "more harder" to bear. It's not "life" that would be harder to bear, it's this board. That about as simple as I can put it. If that example doesn't make you understand, then there's no hope.

Well, if they're so funny, then laugh. What's funny is that you think there're a pack of people that seem to congregate together to ignore someone. You also state that it's funny how people take this stuff so seriously, yet you're here complaining about something that shouldn't be taken so seriously, right?

Here's a hint : if many disapprove, it's a sign that they just happen to agree your take sucks; not a sign they have clandestine meetings on a dock at midnight to discuss "ignoring strategies". If enough people say your thread is ignorant, you should probably consider that they're right and not that they're out to get you.

It's interesting how some people are often thanked and congratulated in threads, while those you mentioned are beat down. Hmmm... if there actually were snobs on this board, why would they ever bother to thank the former group? Because they come with info and good takes. This bbs isn't full of snobs, it's full of people that want a fan site that's different from other fan sites. One that feeds itself with information, not feeds on itself with idiocy.

Whining and b****ing don't bother me so much as whining and b****ing with no facts to back you up. When I hear on the radio or from Peter Vescey that the Rockets are looking to make a deal that there's no way in hell can be possible due to CBA/salary cap limitations, I come here to find out.

I usually don't agree with kidrock8 on much around here, but his post in this thread is the basis for some kind of discussion and is a solid post.

Anyway, carry on with the thread...

 

FranchiseRules:

I remember hearing after the season that Francis said he was going to dedicate himself to becoming one of the best defenders in the league this year.

 

Thank you Dr of Dunk. Good solid take.

 

"blacklist" is when you don't allow someone to participate. Aren't you exaggerating what an "ignore list" is? To ignore is to not read something. It is not a blacklist. That would be called "banning" in a bbs context.

People say all the time, "if you don't like a thread/poster, then ignore it/him." Now we actually can do that.

It is not a "blacklist," you drama queen.

 

You can probably guess which sides the Admins are on.

 

Amen DOD!! Franchise is dedicated to be a great defender, but if you look at Steve's personality you can tell he will do whatever it takes for the Rockets to win a championship. The fire in his eye was there from day 1 and there is no doubt he'll take us there in the future. Not too many players out there with dedication like Francis and we should all smile no matter what happens because we are, Rocket fans.

 

Now, back to your regularly scheduled thread discussion.

My feelings are that, I hope the deal goes through & that Rice will return to full health. If this team can get consistent offense (all year long) out of the SF position, similar to the 20 game performance that Walt gave us the year before last, then this team will make some serious noise.

In addition to the Rice deal going through, I'd like to see the Jahidi for Walt deal come to fruition & I'd like to see a Cato/Drew obligation to Chicago for Miller deal happen.

That'd give us a lineup for this next season of:

C: Miller/Jahidi/Collier
PF: MO/Griffin/KT
SF: Rice/Langhi
SG: Mobley/T-Mo
PG: Francis/Moochie

While the center position wouldn't be spectacular, it would be more than adequate & would have some depth to it.

We could also package a player or two & draft picks next year, if we want to attempt a sign & trade for LaFrentz. For instance, Miller or Jahidi/KT/picks. But that's next year's wheeling & dealing. The point is that we would be able to do some trading next year with Miller/Jahidi, if they aren't quite what we need to go to the next level.

That lineup, with a season of experience under it's belt, could make a serious run in the playoffs.

 

first, i'm not complaining anything. i too thank those with first hand scoop (the francis trade on cellie, just amazing). and on the life/board harder to bear thing, i just meant that how does something you read here directly affect your life? does it make your mental health/paycheck/family problems worse? kinda like that. i guess what i'm saying is let it go, let it pass. its not gonna turn the good posters away from the board if they see the majority only respond to something they feel strongly about. what makes the bbs great are also the jokes in it. not just the serious stuff. so this whole we need to filter out the bad ones by driving em out? i dont know. they only return with new identities.

"Here's a hint : if many disapprove, it's a sign that they just happen to agree your take sucks; not a sign they have clandestine meetings on a dock at midnight to discuss "ignoring strategies". If enough people say your thread is ignorant, you should probably consider that they're right and not that they're out to get you. "

i didn't say anything about people getting defensive when people disagree with them. enough people say your thread is ignorant, then yes it is. back to let it pass/slide with ignorant threads.

"It's interesting how some people are often thanked and congratulated in threads, while those you mentioned are beat down. Hmmm... if there actually were snobs on this board, why would they ever bother to thank the former group? Because they come with info and good takes. This bbs isn't full of snobs, it's full of people that want a fan site that's different from other fan sites. One that feeds itself with information, not feeds on itself with idiocy. "

i dont like to quote, but how did you feel the need to respond to my post with this? people who i said are snobs thank the good posters. yes i agree. because they post good info. i agree again. feed on information, yes.
i guess i shouldn't made it sound like i was saying the whole bbs posters are snobs and they never thank anyone.

crispee,
thanks on explaining what blacklist really is. english isn't my first language. but really, you understood what i'm trying to say with blacklist right?
probably should've wrote condemn, put down. but seriously, couldn't you have turned a blind eye to one inappropriate word in a sentence? i mean, seriously without trying to sound snide, i chuckled (giggled) when you call me a drama queen because of a silly mistake in proper word. see kinda how it turns around on you? like i said earlier, let it go man.
and on the ignoring part, you have noticed how people ignore threads with 4, 5 posts right?

DoD
my earlier post wasn't written to voice complaint. and when i said hilarious found it funny, i didn't use those to be snide or sound like i'm laughing at these people.
the whole point was, there are threads you dont like, leave it alone and you wanna ignore, please do. but do you really need others to know you're ignoring a thread or the thread starter.

and just incase, i'm not writing this to complain about being putdown by someone or that i was ignored or anything. to be safe from crispee calling me a sensitive baby or something in that nature. and i probably should've just let this one pass/slide/go myself.

 

You're aren't looking at the big picture. If no one tells you what you're doing is not the "way it is" on this BBS, you will continue to do it thinking "hey, it must be ok". What ends up happening is that we have entire forums filled with insane topics, off-topic posts, and posts that don't have anything to do with anything or spew absolute mis-information. It would turn into the ESPN boards. If enough people say "I'm putting you on ignore", maybe it'll sink through that your posting is not appreciated. When enough people say "wrong forum" maybe it'll make you think the next time before you post something arbitrarily in any forum. It's when you do ignore these things that you're left with the junk that is "ESPN Message Boards".

As stupid as it may sound, draw this analogy : if you're a kid and your parents never told you the difference between right and wrong or never reprimanded you, you'll think doing just about anything is ok. This board, at least for the short time I've been here, doesn't operate like that. It's self-policing; it corrects itself along the way.

You have to listen to me and abide if for no other reason than I'm right because I have more posts than you. (... just a joke.)

Anyway, we really should take this discussion to the Feedback Forum if you want to continue. This'll be my last response to it in this thread. I don't want kidrock8 jumping on me for destroying his thread.

 

this site is great because its the rockets best fan page and it attracts the rockets fans, all rockets fans, good and bad. its something personal, feel attached to it. i've never been to espn boards but my guess is its too wide range and impersonal.
honestly, if some dedicated toronto fan starts a site as spanking as clutchcity and a forum, its gonna attract its fans and i'm sure they have fans that are just as knowledgable or connected to the management as we have here or at least working in stores with cameras (rockHEAD). bad posters will always be there, there's only so many people who know what they're talking about and do it (post messages) graciously.

what we dont have right now is not 'forums filled with insane topics, off-topic posts, and posts that don't have anything to do with anything or spew absolute mis-information'. instead we have forums filled with insane topics, off-topic posts, and posts that don't have anything to do with anything or spew absolute mis-information that are drawing replies. a lot of replies.

i guess we agree to disagree (i love this phrase, scoop jackson of slam i think started it) on how the bbs is better off on handling 'bad' posts. you say your way is self policing, which by right should have been mine. people start threads to draw replies dont they? good threads bad threads. respond to ones you feel you can contribute to. the bad ones, with their 0 replies will fade out by itself hence bbs self policing, not post police dishing insults to reach a thousand post.

conclusion, why cant we rockets fans all, just get along. show the thread starter some common courtesy by pretending he/she didn't really start the god awful question.

 

further destorying kidrock's thread :

anyone here playing diablo 2?
i suck at it. about the horadric cube, the 1 sword and 6 gems to get 1 long socketed sword, if it was a unique sword, does it retain its unique abilities? and is a long sword one handed or 2? is a long sword a certain sword class or is it just the same sword with 6 gems ie you put in scimitar and you get scimitar with 6 gems with normal scimitar abilities and 6 gems attributes? i dont want to further screw up my paladin.

(sorry i didn't know who else to ask)

 

Exactly. For those of us that have been here a loooong time (4 years for myself), this place is hallow ground. And up until about a year ago, self policing was rarely needed, and when it was, the poster in question would either quickly learn the rules or get chastise till he did learn. But rarely was that needed.

However, in the last year, this place has exploded. Now, when a newbie is told how things run around here, a dozen other newbies jump to his defense with things like "Don't be so anal" or "what difference does it make" or I can do what I want, it's the internet."

That is why conflicts over the unwritten rules has created a "clique-ish" feeling about the place. The old timers yearn for the good old days, the newbies think they are on an ESPN board. Unfortunely, it can only get worse as this place gets bigger. Sigh....


Also fba34, I did a search in the hangout forum for diablo 2

 

its something personal, feel attached to it.

i didn't mean the board actually, but the team. poeple talk about the rockets, some people think the opposite and because they love the team they respond to it.
although i know we all feel clutchcity is something personal and dear to us.

and i wasn't even into the junior members and 4 year members. i'm questioning the need for 'chastise till he did learn' thing. basically just leave em alone, those who start threads we deem unnecessary. like i said earlier, is it better to respond to something you feel shouldn't even be here? and to be rude at that. like michael olowakandi says, its immaterial. (i probably shot myself down quoting a clipper tree).
you guys couldn't do that 4 years ago and see what happened to the bbs. people are egoistic and defensive. it takes tact to correct someone.

and there are way more senior members ganging up on a newbie than the opposite.
this whole seniors vs newbies thing isn't something like barkley saying iverson was the playground rookie of the year thing back in ive's rookie season. we dont get paid money to it, no impressionable kids looking at us for inspirations. there's no bill russel or wilt chamberlain of the bbs.

anyway newbiehad you went off a different topic than what i was saying.