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Tmac 4 MVP!!!!!!!!!!

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by MagicFan, Mar 28, 2003.

  1. MagicFan

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    i think he proved it last night by beating KG!
    He performed in the clutch, KG Choked a FT...
    Tmac is the best all around player in the game!
    id like 2 know 1 good reason why he doesn't deserve the mvp!
     
  2. CriscoKidd

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    his team is squeaking into the playoffs.


    In the east.
     
  3. Shooter1583

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    Yeah, but he doesn't have the team around him that Garnett has.

    Troy Hudson>Jacque Vaughn
    Wally Szczerbiak>Gordan Giricek
    Rasho Nesterovic>Andrew DeClercq, Shawn Kemp

    The only advantage T-Mac's team has is Drew Gooden, who is better than Joe Smith. McGrady deserves MVP simply because he is a leader who has taken this team on his back and led them to the playoffs each year he's been there without an adequate supporting cast.
     
  4. R0ckets03

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    TMac is also in the East.
     
  5. arno_ed

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    think t-mac is a great player but he is not the mvp. you forgot Armstrong and garrity, and gooden is a nice advantage.He also played with Hill for a couple of games(ok not so many, but still) And Garnett has more winning games in the west. as soon as orlando can win mnore games than minesota i wil start to look at t-mac as a candidate for mvp. until than he still plays in the east. and Garnett makes his team one of the best in the nba. And those player of minesota aren't good, they become better players because of Garnett. Hudson was a role player adn still is, Armstrong is better then him, But because of Garneet Hudson might seem better, but he isn't. Garnett has the most Points\rebounds\blocks\assists\steals of his team. I saw games where the big man Garnett wasn't pleased with his point guards because the offense wasn't woking, hso he started to play point. He is unbelieveble this year and the true MVP.
    but i got to say Macgrady played a great game. he is a great player, But not the mvp
     
  6. CriscoKidd

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    What little advantage Garnett has as far as teamates go is balanced out by the fact that his team will be a relatively high seed in the playoffs. In the west.

    TMac rocks, but his team wouldn't even make the playoffs in the west, so no mvp for you.
     
  7. rezdawg

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    K.G. is MVP.

    TMAC is not far behind, but behind, nonetheless.
     
  8. GATER

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    McGrady's a strong candidate but....

    I'm not sure an MVP winner can be concluded from one head-to-head team matchup. Especially when that game winning clutch shot by McGrady was closer to a charge then a FG.

    Plus, IMO Gooden is way better than anyone the TWolves use at PF other than KG.

    If both Giricek and Wally Z were offered to the Rockets in trade, I would hope they would take Giricek. The guy is 6'6" and has PG type handles from what I've seen.

    TMac is good, but he now has some serious help.
     
  9. MagicFan

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    so he has help, so what!
    armstrong is old, and can barely do anything of what he used to.. Hudson dropped like 26 on us in Minnesota...
    They have a way more talented roster than we do... and there struggling...
    with KG and no wally 17-16... with wally they are a better team...
    Tmac kept his team in striking distance now are rising above with drew gooden and winning games without him...
    you take tmac off his team NBDL right there...
    take kg off and i bet you dollars to donuts there still 500. ball...
    tmac should win the mvp, the east is not that weak... if u remember untill The east started losing late here (ie detroit 6 game losing streak, NJ 5 game losing streak , INdiana not being able to find a way 2 get a win) you would see that...
    and tmac has his team in a spot 2 take a spot over by a far more talented Boston Celtics...
    he does it all...
    Out in the first round ? You must be joking...
    btw hey KG, u did it all man, u scored almost all ur shots rebounded blah blah, ur buddy wally hit so many shots, tmac couldnt buy a bucket in the first half... u had a 10 pt lead the whole game, then when it mattered "CHOKED!"
     
  10. kidrock8

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    Duncan or KG are more deserving.
     
  11. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    I will give you two very different reasons. Tim Duncan and defense. See Tim Duncan is a much better player and McGrady dosn't play much in the way of defense (not all his fault, as he is a guard). I will say that McGrady is the best guard in the league and I would love to trade Steve+ for him.
     
  12. KeepJuaquin

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    T-Mac is VERY VALUABLE.

    But Kevin Garnett and Tim Duncan are more valuable.

    As well as Shaq still.

    As well as Kobe.
     
  13. Buckets

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    mvp will be between KG and Duncan, if you look at the history of mvps youll see not many teams without a 55+ win record have had mvp winners.
     
  14. OverRRated

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    Please....the MVP now-a-days is as useless as debating the "50 greatest athletes".......from all sports.
    Except for the Lakers, each one of the teams of these MVP candidates have one 1 superstar.
     
  15. kidrock8

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    T-Mac's weak supporting cast isn't much worse than what Iverson had in Philly, when he took the 6ers to the Finals.

    The odds of T-Mac going to the finals are 1:32433244343

    If T-Mac made the Magic contenders in the East, then yes MVP talk would be logical.

    However, being a .500 team in the East, no matter who crappy your talent is (The entire East has crappy talent), does not warrant MVP consideration.
     
  16. O-Mack

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    Hell yeah T-Mac for MVP. I don't think he's gonna win it although since the media is just so biased towards the East. Even Kidd got robbed last year because of this. Oh well I just hope that either Duncan or Garnett wins it and not that punkass MJ wannabe. I expect T-Mac to win MVP one of these days although.
     
  17. Puedlfor

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    The media isn't biased against the East, it just sucks. The NBA Finals were pretty indicative that Jason Kidd wasn't really the MVP last year.

    and Duncan should win this year.
     
  18. DVauthrin

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    TMac is a fine player, but KG or Duncan are the leaders for MVP by far.

    I agree with Pued that Duncan is the MVP again. Tim is by far the most well rounded player in basketball. He is on a different level from everyone else.

    Anyone who can shoot a 15-20 foot bank shot with his consistency deserves major props if you ask me.
     
  19. Playercentral

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    Duncan is not MVP nor will he get it.

    Mo taylor said it best.......T-mac and KG deserve Co-Mvp of the year. T-mac carries his team as well as KG.

    Duncan does not carry a team.


    Mvp award is biased anyhow because it's usually given to the player with the better record of the Conference finals.
     
  20. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Yes he does, the Spurs. Everyone else on that team is either an old man (Robinson, Willis, Smith, Kerr, Ferry), has little NBA experience (Ginobli, Parker, Claxton, Jackson), or is an overrated role-player (Bowen, Rose). Without Duncan, that team is below the Sonics.

    The MVP voting ends before the playoffs, so it can hardly be biased toward anything that happens in the conference finals. It is very hard for a guard to be the MVP. Magic was a legit MVP, Jordan was the MVP of the Bulls but not the league IMO (the Bulls w/o Jordan still did pretty good in '94, much better than the Rox would have w/o Hakeem of the Suns w/o Barkley). It is just too hard for a guard to have enough of an effect on a defense to warrant MVP honors. It should be between Duncan and Garnett, and I would vote for Duncan.
     

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