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Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by Baqui99, Dec 10, 2004.

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  1. Baqui99

    Baqui99 Member

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    2. Tim Hudson
    A's GM Billy Beane has been telling people he's feeling "creative" lately. And you know what that means: A seven-team trade involving 28 players could be happening any minute now. But more likely, it means Beane has peered over the horizon and determined that, for the sake of his team's long-term financial maneuverability, the dreaded time has come to trade one of his Big Three starters. The most likely to depart is Hudson, just because he's closest to free agency and because he's likely to bring the best package. The A's want a second baseman and young pitching in return. So the Braves (Marcus Giles, Jose Capellan) and Orioles (Brian Roberts, Erik Bedard) look like logical matches. But the Cardinals and Indians also will know exactly where to find Beane's suite.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=1942763


    Talk about a badass rotation if we can land Hudson. It looks like it would take a pitcher and 2nd baseman. I'm thinking Burke and Wade Miller might get it done. Tim Hudson's been consistent throughout his career. He'd fit in nicely into the slot left behind by Kent. Biggio could slide back into 2nd base.
     
  2. SamCassell

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    Nice thought. Hudson's a legit ace at a reasonable price. For that reason, though, he's gonna take more than Burke and Miller. Maybe if Miller was 100% healthy. Brian Giles, the Braves (potential) offer, is a young star.
     
  3. Lil Francis

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    It would be nice if the Stros could get Hudson without trading Wade.

    Oswalt
    Hudson
    Andy P
    Miller
    Backe

    That would be a better rotation than the Cubs but I know that trade is impossible.
     
  4. rrj_gamz

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    Won't happen...Our prospects are limited and don't see it happening, although, it would be awesome...
     
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    I will be willing to Give up

    Jimerson or Taveras
    Wade Miller
    Jason
    Burke

    What ever it take to land Hudson. If Hudson is on the block, I will make a push to get him. It wouldn't hut for TimP to just place the call.
     
  6. NJRocket

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    Ensberg and buckholz
     
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    We may get him cheaper than you'd think. Last year they traded Lilly for Kielty. Now I know that Hudson is much better than Lilly, but still - they traded a .449 sp for a .214 utility of - ouch.
     
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    Am I the only one wondering why the Yankees haven't gone after Hudson?
     
  9. SamCassell

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    Hudson's not a free agent and the Yankees have absolutely nothing that the A's would want in a trade.
     
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    Don't think we have what it takes to land him, and as good as he is, I don't think I'd want to give up either Burke or Taveras for him. I just love the prospect of having two guys who can hit .300 and steal 40 bases at the top of the line up.

    Now if he could be had for Miller/Buckholz and Lane/Jimerson I'd do it in a second.
     
  11. MadMax

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    if i KNEW i was signing beltran, i'd have NO problem giving up taveras. but i don't know that.
     
  12. gunn

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    I would rather see Pupura push for a trade for Soriano.

    Biggo
    Soriano
    Beltran
    Berkman
    Bagwell
    Lamb/Ensberg
    Everett
    Ausmus

    That 1-5 would arguably be the best in baseball. A 30/30 and 40/40 player back-to-back is a scary thought. Having those two in the 2 and 3 slots would do an incredible amout for Biggio and his obp as he would get great pitches to see.

    Now if you get Clemens to return for another year, the rotation of:

    Clemens
    Oswalt
    Petitte
    Backe
    (with a FA pick-up)

    ...combined with the above line-up would make the Astros a legit force with excellent odds of winning the World Series.
     
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    At $7million/yr, I'de stay away from Soriano. 23 errors last year and after it turned out he was older than believed, he's suddenly no longer a superstar.

    I think they'd be well advised to go head first into this Hudson sweepstakes. The guy is a potential ace and to pair him with Oswalt at the top of the rotation, with Berkman and (hopefully) Beltran in the lineup, you're tough for almost a decade.
     
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    Remember that Hudson is in the final year of his contract, meaning we'd likely be mortaging the farm for a one year rental before he heads to the Yankees. No way George is going to yet a young ace like Hudson play anywhere else.
     
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    As others have stated, Hudson is in the final year of his deal, and the Astros are not going to afford Hudson with his career 700 winning percentage at 12-13 million a year while having to resign Oswalt.

    Soriano did have 23 errors last season, but he also turned 30 more double plays than Kent too. And 7 million/year is two million less per year than what Kent recieved, which is quite a bargain for a player who is of Kent's caliber of hitter and is still only 28 years old.
     
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    How much longer are we paying Bagwell? We could backload the contract to kick in once Bags' contract is up. Not to mention that Kent's out.
     
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    Beltran's contract will more than pick up the slack in Bagwell's contract. It's a great thought but it's not going to work as long as we have a payroll around 80 to 85 million
     
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    According to a report on the Oakland Tribune website, the A's have agreed to send right-hander Tim Hudson to the Dodgers in exchange for starter Edwin Jackson and second baseman Antonio Perez.
    Citing a source close to the negotiations, the Tribune reported that the two teams have agreed to the trade and that it could become official Sunday.

    A's GM Billy Beane reportedly had been trying to arrange a three-team deal involving either the Yankees or the Red Sox. When that failed, the beneficiary was Beane's former top lieutenant, Dodgers GM Paul DePodesta.

    Hudson, 29, went 92-39 with a 3.30 ERA during his six seasons in Oakland. He was 12-6 with a 3.53 ERA last year.

    The right-hander has one year remaining on his contract at the relatively bargain price of $6.75 million and was widely expected to leave Oakland — like former A's stars Miguel Tejada and Jason Giambi before him — as a free agent.

    Jackson, 21, made a splashy debut for the Dodgers in 2003, outdueling none other than Arizona's Randy Johnson. But Jackson struggled with an elbow injury in 2004 and was unable to solidify his hold on a spot in the starting rotation despite being all but assured one during spring training.

    Perez hit .296 with 22 home runs and 88 RBIs for Triple-A Las Vegas in 2004.
     
  19. yaopao

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    Backloading contracts is why we are in our current financial quagmire.
     
  20. NJRocket

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    not anymore...he is Atlanta bound
     
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