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Those Stupid Birthers...

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by PigMiller, May 17, 2012.

  1. bnb

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    I think this highlights the need for more regulation in the review of bios for pitches for books, film, etc. And it shouldn't be restricted to ones that are widely distributed. Internal pitch booklets should be covered too. Perhaps a new agency? A czar? Anyone up for the task? Should something just be implemented or do we need a full congressional hearing first?

    I think we should have the right to fully believe anything that is (re)published on the internet.
     
  2. Rashmon

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    What purpose? Our amusement, of course.

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  3. Anticope

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    Who is Barrack Obama?
     
  4. mc mark

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    Every day the birthers wallow in their filth brings Mr Obama one day closer to re-election.

    keep it up freaks!
     
  5. Deji McGever

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    From the time my school newspaper interviewed me in the 5th grade, to interviews with journalists in Israel after playing a show, no one has ever printed a 100% correct narrative of my life, often with over-the-top embellishments for dramatic effect.

    There is no shortage of falsehoods about me in print, and every time I figure, "Meh, who cares? It might help me sell more albums if people think that crap."
     
  6. Rashmon

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    "Fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't."

    Mark Twain
     
  7. Granville

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    Your kind is a very "short" lot of misfits.
     
  8. basso

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    Did they ask you to provide copy, then edited your work to mean something else, which was then submitted for your review prior to publishing?
     
  9. FranchiseBlade

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    That exact thing has happened to me before in my theatre work. Exactly. I also have worked for a Publishing company, and saw that kinds of things they did all the time.
     
  10. basso

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    no it hasn't.

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    Reading the extraordinary revelation about Barack Obama’s youthful literary career on Breitbart.com [1] — that his agents published a promotional book in 1991 with a bio of Obama saying he was born in Kenya — set my old mystery writer mind ablaze.

    How could that be? Why would they think such a thing?

    There are only two forks in this road — either he was born in Kenya or he wasn’t.

    I have never been a conspiracy theorist and will assume the latter, although I have to confess that for the first time, given this revelation, I have the tiniest soupçon of doubt.

    Nevertheless, the more interesting, and actually frightening and depressing, conclusion is the former. So what if he was born in Kenya? At least we know why he lied about it. He wanted to be president.

    But why did Obama’s agents think he was born in Kenya? That’s a more interesting question. (Obama, of course, is a liar either way.)

    I will leave aside for the moment the question of whether he vetted the agent’s material himself. As the author of eleven published books and seven produced feature films, I have had plenty of dealings with agents and publicity people and always looked over the bios they had written about me. Every author I ever talked to about it always did too. We’re those kind of egotists. But I have no way of proving that Obama did — although I would faint if he hadn’t.

    But whatever he did, the question remains. Why did they put “Born in Kenya” in his bio and leave it there until 2007? The latter part of that question can of course be ascribed to normal human sloth, but the first part — there’s the rub.

    Here are the explanations I can think of:

    Obama told them.
    It was in some early draft of Obama’s abandoned book (Journeys in Black and White) he submitted to them.
    Obama wrote it in his book proposal to them.
    Obama told them in a query letter.
    Obama answered one of those biographical forms.
    … Well, I’m running out because they all amount to the same thing.
    There is one other possibility. The agents simply made up the place of Obama’s birth, but I have never in all my life heard of a literary agent doing such a thing. It’s possible I suppose, but hardly likely. And why?

    Anyway, per Occam’s Razor, I am going with the obvious — the agent’s source for Obama’s birthplace was… Barack Obama.

    But again why? Why would he lie about where he was born?

    Well, he might have wanted to glamorize his past, but if that’s so, it’s pathetic. I suspected there was a more substantive reason, one that would cause him to leave his African birth place in place in the bio. But to take the risk of being found out, it would have to be strong.

    My wife Sheryl and I, like Nick and Nora Charles, discussed it over gimlets this evening. We both agreed the mystery lay somewhere in Obama’s college and university years at Occidental, Columbia, and Harvard. We knew, as you do, there must be an explanation for why the court eunuchs of the mainstream media have never bothered even to investigate the scholastic career of the most powerful person in the world.

    Because Obama got bad grades? Yawn — so did Bush, Kerry, Biden, Ted Kennedy, and dozens of others who later found themselves making life or death decisions over our lives.

    No, it had to be something more significant, more potentially dangerous. What if, we thought, as others have suggested, the reason Obama’s school records have not surfaced is that he enrolled, at one of those institutions at least, as a foreign student — a Kenyan?

    But why would he choose to do that? Well, maybe for a grant, a subvention, a scholarship that was available uniquely to students from Africa or similar locales.

    Yes, I know that’s not “fair,” in the lexicon of the Lord of Fairness, to have adopted a phony identity and deprived others of an opportunity they may have more richly deserved. But it would certainly fit with Obama’s early need to be recognized as a Kenyan by his agent and, presumably, his publisher. As we all know, it’s not the crime, but the cover-up. (In this case, actually, it’s both.)

    As time went on, of course, college drifted away and politics reared its head. The Kenyan identity became less necessary, even a liability, so it was dropped.

    I don’t know about you — but this makes sense to me. It also fits with the tomb-like silence around his college years.

    But I could be wrong. After all, I am only a mystery writer and, worse yet, a screenwriter. The professional investigative journalists at The New York Times, The Washington Post and The Los Angeles Times will no doubt dig deep and give us the true explanation.

    But if they don’t, and I know you’re skeptical, we have to keep pushing, every one of us. We must learn the truth of this. We owe it to Andrew B. — and to our country.

    http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2012/05/18/the-mystery-of-the-kenyan-birth/?singlepage=true
     
  11. Dubious

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    Yes he is from Kenya. Someone should really do something about that.
     
  12. FranchiseBlade

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    It hasn't? Then perhaps you can explain that to the Bruce Eastwood from Eastwood talent who will still laughs about it when I bring it up with him today. Too bad you don't know what the hell you're talking about. Or maybe those of us that were actually involved in the incident just had a collective hallucination, and you who weren't there know more about what happened. LOL! Keep trying, birther.

    This is awesome. Not only are you going out of your to make Obama from Kenya or lying about being from Kenya when publicizing a book where he writes that he wasn't from Kenya, but you are denouncing crap that happened decades ago when you weren't even there, and had nothing to do with you, or was not of any importance at all. You are on a roll.

    When I worked at Random House in NY, crap like this happened all the time. It wasn't intentional, but they edited little bits of an author's bio to emphasize certain things that they thought would register better depending on where the author was doing publicity. Most of the time their editing didn't create errors, and anything that did happens was unintentional, but stuff was edited all the time.

    You just keep spinning those birther wheels, you're looking fabulous!
     
  13. mc mark

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    Beautiful!

    Hawaii tells AZ Secretary Of State’s Birther to shove it!

    Emails Show How Hawaii Stiffed Arizona Secretary Of State’s Birther Investigation

    One of the more amusing things revealed last week when Arizona’s secretary of state came out as birther curious was that Hawaii officials just simply don’t believe he’s qualified to investigate Barack Obama’s birth certificate.

    Sure, Ken Bennett says he’s the man in charge of deciding whether President Obama is eligible to be on Arizona’s ballot in November, but the response from people in Hawaii’s government has been: Prove it. In essence, they’re giving Bennett a taste of his own medicine, making him jump through a series of hoops to prove he has the legal authority to investigate the matter, much the same way the birthers have made Hawaii prove time and time again that the president is indeed a natural born citizen of the United States.
     
  14. bigtexxx

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    Actions like what Hawaii are doing would are indicative to me of somebody who has something to hide...
     
  15. mc mark

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    Can you explain to us all this vice like grip Mr Obama has on the Hawaiian government?

    stupid birther
     
  16. Kojirou

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    Jesus freaking Christ, bigtexx.

    I am a nationalist and a Republican. I'll almost certainly vote for Romney. But it means above all that I see myself as a servant. Both to the American people, and the government. And that means working for this ****ing country, and it means having respect for the President of the United States and the office and the man who sits in it.

    That doesn't mean liking Obama. That means understanding that he's an American, who wants to implement policies which he believes are good for this country, and that he is not a socialist Kenyan Muslim devil. For me, it means believing in a creed which preaches American supremacy, but at the same time argues that said supremacy can be extended to all people, just like citizenship was with Rome. Give the man his due and accept that he actually is an American, and I'd give my life for him or any other President or future President. Or give the office his due.

    And if you can't do that, sit back at your house, watch Rockets game, and stand aside as the old guard, the establishment will move forward and retake control of the party away from you populist nutjob Libertarians and tea partiers. Oh wait, "forward" is a socialist phrase. I'm sorry.
     
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  17. bigtexxx

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    He has lost the respect that his job deserves, due to his pitiful performance. He needs to be replaced so that America can continue being a great country.

    I guess you had a nice little soliloquy there, though.
     
  18. nef2005

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    Must spread rep. You really are what the GOP needs more of.
     
  19. basso

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    Because democrats always show tremendous respect and deference to the office and person of the president?
     
  20. bigtexxx

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    lol

    exactly

    a case of selective amnesia, methinks
     

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