I like how everyone forget that JVG did try and give V-Span some time in the beginning of the season, despite a horid pre-season. W/O looking it up, he had a stretch of 13 games or so where he got consistent backup minutes and played poorly. He did nothing with that opportunity.
I would think they have zero trade value on the market. Maybe as throw ins to match salaries. Neither one has shown anything.
The way I look at it, JVG is afraid to take calculated risks. He has got no balls. He's afraid of changes as to avoid making a mistake. As a result, the Rockets play like a bunch of pu$$ies too.
What? He had some moments of brilliance in there, like the games against Washington.... Span just needs to play and get comfortable.... If JVG gets fired and we finally get a coach in here who is ok with players who add a bit of a risk, I think the team will be much better off. Look at Golden State...... DD
Anybody remember the struggles that Popovich had with Ginobili, it was very tough, but look how it turned out.
JVG needs to go, but we also have alot of dead weight and players that also could go. I'm not saying VSpan is one of them, but I think JLIII and maybe Snyder could go with little detriment to the team.
DaDa, This has already been hashed and rehased and Luffy1 and you are the only ones who saw moments of brilliance from V-Span. 10 pts and 3 assts in 17 mins is a decent game, but no brilliance there. As far as needing to play and get comfortable. He did play. Decent minutes for 13 games, and the 10 pt, 3 assist masterpiece notwithstanding, he showed more weaknesses than positives. You can't have your cake (play players who aren't ready) and eat it too (win games). I am sure v-span will improve over the summer and continue to improve and possibly win a spot in the rotation. This year was not his year.
All I got to say is this: Spanoulis isn't on the same planet in terms of talent when compared to Yao, but did we all forget how long it took Yao to finally get acclimated to USA basketball? There's not one Euro player I can think of that has came in successfully and adapted well besides Bargnani.
Codell, when you develop a player all season, they gain confidence and are much better at the end of the season. JVG basically wasted this year by not developing anyone that might actually help the Rockets in the future. It was pretty clear to a lot of us that Tmac, Yao and Battier were not going to be enough and that is why we wanted the coach to go deeper into his bench and play players that fill weaknesses on our team. Specifically at PG and perimeter speed.... V-Span, Snyder, and Bonzi could have all helped this team, but JVG ran each of them off or to the end of the bench. JVG doesn't like players that create havok, he wants everything controlled, well at the end of most games, it is havok that wins the day. GOOD BYE JVG !!! Don't let the door knob hit ya where the good lord split ya. DD
I was actually defending you by saying that Spanoulis needed time to adjust his game to the NBA (and never got the chance). But if you choose to not read my post and don't want me to agree with you, just tell me so.
Again, that would depend on the team....they would go off their potential.........look at Nachbar now.
It takes one or two years to develop a player, sometimes longer. A dozen games aren't going to cut it. The chances given are so slim I doubt it's just JVG's plan to yank V-Span to the bench. Like telling a puppy, grow into a dog in a few days, or go back to the doghouse. JVG did the same thing by exposing Novak against the Suns as a starter. It's all just a plot to give more minutes to the starters. For the sake of his job, he sacrificed the long term interest of the Rockets and the playoffs.
Exactly, and I think that CD's retirement hurt in this regards, where someone like Colangelo forced his coach to play his rookies our was riding off into the sunset and probably didn't want to step on JVG's toes. Me, I would have crushed his toes with a fricken 2000 lbs Anvil. DD
Agree with codell...great thread/post New Yorker... The more I see this team play, the more it's apparent that T-Mac and Yao are a great superstar core. They have great offensive chemistry; their games supplement each other's very well. No way should we dismantle this tandem. I think offense is an area that obviously needs to be addressed. I think our season stats prove that if we score over 100 points, we traditionally win. This is mainly because we have a sound defensive team. We need a backcourt scorer who can create his own shot and more height/quickness in the front court. With all of the games we've won because of Battier, having a player like Brandon Roy on this team would have done the Rockets wonders during the season and the playoffs. Although I'm upset about the outcome of this series with the Jazz and saddened that I won't be seeing more Rockets ball this postseason, I'm excited about the offseason. I think Rockets management, overall, is one of the better risk-taking front offices in the league and is smart enough to see our team's deficiencies and to try to address them in the offseason. I'm entirely sure that JVG should go because I like the discipline he brings, but I'll understand if he's let go.
