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The Occupation Thread

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Butterfingers, Jul 27, 2012.

  1. Yonkers

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    Make sure your low end is really your low end and never accept anything below that. And then I would have a variance of about 20-25% above that, depending on benefits package. Your range will have to be big since you don't want to show your cards too early but you want to be able to get in the interview. But never put in a number you would not accept.
     
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  2. dandorotik

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    Umm....well, exactly what he said. You have to know what the lowest is and be able to deal with that. And then provide a wide range- also, Yonkers is right- what is the benefits package? How far do you have to drive every day, or is public commute, a much cheaper alternative, an option? Are there any other perks that would make you accept the lowest range? You CANNOT put in a salary figure that you can't live with, unless you can squeeze in a 2nd job somehow. But, basically, just follow what Yonkers said.
     
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  4. AXG

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    I work at a mortgage company, basically a jack of all trades.
     
  5. dandorotik

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    Job Search Tip of the Day October 5, 2012

    If you are a recent graduate, make sure that you don't limit your job search too narrowly- and do consider working abroad as an option.




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    Watch that Maxwell kid.
     
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    I have a phone interview today. Any other tips?
     
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    Don't give that BS about "It's negotiable". That's the standard line. The line has never worked for me. Then, they ask for your current salary. It does the recruiter and you no good. You will end up wasting each other's time, if the pay is too little. The recruiter is just trying to find a match among all the candidates in his database.

    A recruiter contacted me with a job for $2-3k more. After the interview, the hiring company offered $12-13k more.

    Another recruiter asked me to interview for a position that paid $12-13k less than what I requested. It was non-negotiable.
     
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    That is not true. Sometimes you might take less salary for stock options or if that company can give you a particular skill that can help you down the road. I think just looking at money is short term thinking.
     
  11. Yonkers

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    And that's why you give a large minimum to minimum+25% range, to account for the various benefits packages. Benefits include 401k matching, vacation/personal time, dependent care, medical coverage, life insurance, disability coverage, training, location, telecommuting options, industry, company prestige, potential for vertical movement, etc.
     
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    If a person is really willing to work for peanuts and stock options, then they should provide the salary range that is negotiable. If a recruiter has a candidate that has only "negotiable" with no salary range, there is not much to work with. There are several candidates available, the recruiter will opt for a known quantity over an unknown quantity, before risking their bonus.

    They will press the issue or move on. In this mediocre job market, it's better to provide the salary range that's negotiable than leave it unknown.
     
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    Well, it turned out to be way less than I could possibly even consider. The advantage of looking while you are currently employed (for now, that is).

    Still, for the most part striking out. I've been told that the oil & gas companies do not consider applicants with no experience in O&G because they do not train at all. Is that true? I've come across many positions where I have 99% of what they're looking for...just no O&G experience. That eliminates me from a lot of open positions in the Houston area.
     
  14. Yonkers

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    Depends on the role you're applying for. But generally you don't really need that O&G experience. But it's kind of a good ol' boy network so if you don't have the experience that's a knock against you. I'm in the IT field and I've worked in the O&G field the past 7 years. And pretty much they all want you to have O&G experience but there's really no experience to be had. Yeah, there are some slight differences but generally it's not that different than any other big company. But that's what they want. Makes them feel more at ease.
    So yeah, sorry to hear about that. It's a Catch-22. Can't get O&G experience unless you already have O&G experience.
     
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    Job Search Tip of the Day October 7, 2012

    Order a copy of all 3 credit reports prior to beginning your job search. Make sure there are no errors, as some employers review candidates' credit reports (even though they shouldn't in many instances).

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    Job Search Tip of the Day October 8, 2012

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    Job Search Tip of the Day October 9, 2012

    If you are a manager and wish to transition to a non-management position (e.g. Engineering Manager to Senior Engineer), try to find one that has some supervisory/mentoring duties in case you decide to get back into management.

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    Job Search Tip of the Day October 10, 2012

    Consider adding a headline to your email signature (e.g. Jane Doe, Marketing Manager, "Creating Dynamic Online Marketing for the 21st Century Consumer," Phone, Email, etc.)

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    Job Search Tip of the Day October 11, 2012

    Stay positive even if you don't get the job. Don't let disappointment creep into your job search activities, especially subsequent interviews.

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    Job Search Tip of the Day October 12, 2012

    If you are a college student in an internship program, keep detailed notes on your internship activities and projects- and don't forget to include key points from this on your resume.

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