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The new Zelda game

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Ninja Sauce X, Apr 11, 2002.

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  1. Ninja Sauce X

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    Very reminiscent of the original Zelda's instruction booklet illustrations...

    Could be worse though. Ever see Paper Mario? :(
     
  3. Coach AI

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    I don't really feel much about the new look...hell, it's not like Zelda has ever been much of the warrior looking type.

    All I care is about it being a good game....and there's no reason to believe that will change.
     
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    I've known about that atrocity for a while, and it's completely disappointing. After two brilliant games on the N64, they're going to dumb it down and make it into some family cartoony bull****. There's no way I'm buying it.


    Perfect Dark 2 please.
     
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    Amen.

    I thought Jet Set Radio looked crappy til I played it. Cel-shaded games don't make for the best pics to show off graphics.
     
  6. RunninRaven

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    As much as I don't like the look of the new Zelda, I probably will buy it because, like others have said, as long as the gameplay is good, the game will be entertaining. The Zelda series has a LOOOOONG history of very good games. Most of this is a result of good gameplay.
     
  7. Cold Hard

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    It might be 2004 before that game comes out.....

    As for the upcoming Zelda, I don't mind the cel-shaded environments at all. Also, if you watch the short movie clip that's been floating around the 'Net for the past eight months or so, you'll notice that the animation is incredible. Remember that Zelda is supposed to be a fairy tale. To me the game looks kind of like the original Zelda or A Link to the Past manifested into 3D.

    What I, and most others, do absolutely despise about the game is the utterly asstacular design of Link himself, especially his face.

    With that said, I fully expect the new Zelda to be every bit as good as the older Zelda games on NES, SNES, and N64 in the gameplay department. Thus I will be picking the game up the instant it hits store shelves (Nintendo is adamant about getting this game out by the end of this year here in the US, and I'm starting to believe that it might just happen despite their tendency to delay their games a lot).
     
  8. Nomar

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    Why you people would rather play Zelda over Final Fanatasy boggles my mind...
     
  9. Kimble14

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    Zelda: You do stuff.
    FF: You watch cutscenes.

    I probably shouldn't make comments like that minutes before I go out of town. ;)

    As to the new Zelda look, I'm willing to give it a chance. Being 30 years old, there's not really that much difference between something that looks like it's geared toward 10-year-olds and something better suited for 15-year-olds.

    --Kimble, who might feel differently if FF had been on any Nintendo systems
     
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    I agree with your summary of why FF gets boring, but you obviously never played Final Fantasy 2 or 3 on the SNES. Those were the best ones! There were no cut scenes, there was no cheap voice acting that made me want to vomit, and there was tons of action! I would enjoy the latest FF if only they would devise some way to cut past all the cutscenes that you have seen over and over and over and over and over and over again.

    Incidentally, has anyone seen movie clips of the new Starfox game for Gamecube? It looks pretty good. Not only will there be flying, etc like in the previous Starfox games, but they have added a ground portion of it that looks remarkably similar to the last two Link games. Starfox runs around with a staff hitting people and using items. I am getting quite pumped up about it.
     
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    I know there are fun cell shaded games, but for God's sake Link looks like Parappa the Effin' Rapper.
     
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    There's actually a company that makes a cell-shading plugin for the 3-d animation Maya (the best animation prog. IMO).

    I always thought it was kind of funny that someone would spend $5k for a computer rendering program, and then another $5k for a plug in to make it look more like it's not computer animated, but I guess to each his own.
     
  13. Nomar

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    :mad:

    Final Fantasy X is easily the best game I've ever played.
     
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    The FF games used to be my favorite. But I bought FF9 and never came close to finishing it. Just couldn't get involved, anymore. Don't know if I outgrew them, or just played too many of them...

    ...which is another reason I bought an Xbox ;).
     
  15. Coach AI

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    Final Fantasy and Zelda are two totally different things. That's like asking how someone could play Madden 2002 over Metal Gear Solid.


    But they are both good games. In any case, it looks like Square and Nintendo have ironed out most of their differences, so I'm happy.
     
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    Rokkit, does this mean that FF games will now be made for the Gamecube as well as other systems?
     
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    Err...yeah, you watch a lot of cutscenes in FF7 and onward (haven't played FFX yet), but I also seem to recall spending the majority of my time actually *playing* those games and *doing* stuff. :) An option to skip the FMV cutscenes would have been nice, but when I'm playing through the game for the first time I like to watch them.

    I'm not Rokkit, but I'll go ahead and answer this. Square has confirmed that they will be developing games for the Game Boy Advance, including Final Fantasy Tactics (not sure if it's gonna be a port of the PSX game or a new game). The GBA games should be out by the end of the year. Square has not officially confirmed that they will be developing a FF game for the GameCube, but the company has said that they are intrigued by the link-up feature between the GameCube and the GBA, so a FF game which takes advantage of that is a possibility. I also think that there is a good possibility that some of Square's other franchises will make their way over to the GC.

    The chances of Square putting a FF game, or any of their other games, on Xbox is pretty much zero, especially considering that the system is selling very poorly in Japan (most recent weekly sales data....had the Xbox selling only approx. 2,100 units during the first week of April, compared to about 15,000 GameCubes and about 80,000 PS2s during that same time period...even the friggin' Dreamcast outsold the Xbox during that timeframe).

    Finally, Square has stated that they are still committed to the PS2 moreso than any other system. So I think that the newer FF games that are part of the main series (FFX, FFXI, FFXII) will stay exclusive to Sony's system, and if the GameCube gets any FF games, they'll probably be spinoffs and/or remakes of older FF titles.

    This entire Square-Nintendo reconciliation news was leaked by a Japanese website earlier than planned. I don't think that this was supposed to be revealed to the public until E³, which is a major expo that takes place in late May where game developers show off their upcoming projects to the press. I think that more details surrounding the possibility of FF on GameCube will surface then.
     
  18. Coach AI

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    Yeah, Cold Hard covered most of the details. In general no one knows anything solid yet, save for the clear GBA developments Square is planning. Square is actually forming a new development company for this - since not doing so would violate some of their agreements with Sony, I believe.

    Basically each side is hesitant to explain anything fully, and both either contradict or repeat each other. Like Cold said, they weren't expecting to make any announcements this soon. But they are definitely starting to make some progress.

    The next FF is going to be a PS2 game (this online multiplayer one), without a doubt. Beyond that its hard to say.

    Here's some articles on it, if your interested.

    http://www.rpgamer.com/news/Q1-2002/032102b.html
    http://www.thegia.com/news/0203/n27b.html
    http://www.thegia.com/news/0203/n08b.html
    http://www.planetgamecube.com/news.cfm?action=item&id=2751
     
  19. fadeaway

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    BONUS QUIZ: With all this talk about watching cutscenes, does anyone know the first video game to introduce and popularize the whole idea of cutscenes?
     
  20. SamCassell

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    fade: was it Ninja Gaiden? I remember that one had some cool cut scenes for the old-school NES.
     

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