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the last play..

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by bamtonio, Jan 28, 2009.

  1. t-mac4bigmac

    t-mac4bigmac Member

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    anyone else think of the Olajuwon block on John Starks when you saw that last play?
     
  2. NewBigThree09

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    It was, Adelman just said that in the press conference
     
  3. badgerfan

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    Surprising. I'd bet that the pick from Yao wasn't in the game plan though.
     
  4. DaronMalakian

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    Listening Rick, I think thas was the plan. But with Tracy speed, 5 seconds it's not enough time to trust in all that, we proved it. 1st, the reception (Tracy doesn't works for agood reception and catches the ball too far from the hoop). Then the pick, Yao goes up, then McGradys first dribble, the siwtch, and then the penetration... with 2 seconds remaining? If you find a defender, there is no time for a pass, so Tracy decided to shoot, but all is Adelman's fault.

    If you want the ball for Tracy, make a play for him recieveing at the high post for a one on one. ****, Lionel outcoached RA and he had it very easy.
     
  5. NewBigThree09

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    Surprisingly it was, he said that the goal was to "get the ball in T-Mac's hands" and had the attitude of "what do you expect, there were only 5 seconds left in the game."
     
  6. durvasa

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    Not true. The pick resulted in a switch. That's creates a mismatch. At that point, there are a number of options available which are (in theory) favorable to the offense. (1) McGrady could take Dalembert off the dribble and either get to the basket, pass it to Yao (who has a smaller guy on him), or find a 3-point shooter in the corner. (2) Or, McGrady could allow Yao to get into the paint, seal his man, and deliver the ball to him. The problem there is the shot clock is running down, and there won't be an offensive rebounding opportunity. But if Yao can get a good shot in the paint, that'll work. Or (3) McGrady could try to shake Dalembert off if he can't turn the corner, take a pull up jumper, and Yao is at the basket ready for an offensive rebound.

    Watch the replay. Option 3 is what materialized. McGrady has trouble exploding going to his right, but he wasn't able to turn the corner going left. (Philly played it well). Yao was a bit slow on the roll and not quite ready to turn and seal his man. So McGrady elects to take the shot with the shot clock winding down rather than wait for Yao to turn and ask for it. Yao is getting into favorable rebounding position. The ball is tipped, and Yao is looking at the basket instead of following the flight of the ball. If Yao had even a sliver of court awareness, he could have grabbed the ball and had a wide open dunk. But he doesn't, and it's a loss. The funny thing is we're so used to Yao not grabbing loose balls that are right there, many of us don't even think to point it out any more. At this point, all I can do is shake my head.
     
  7. DudeWah

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    Why can't you guys just accept that Adelman messed up.
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    Move on..
    All I see is a bunch of posters saying "I won't believe Adelman drew up that last play/ He couldn't have decided for the Yao pick" then trying to pour the blame on McGrady...
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    Grow a pair of eyes.
    Adelman called it, and the play was executed.
    As usual, it failed
     
  8. badgerfan

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    Yeah, except that McGrady was actually beating his man off the dribble one on one all night. Why call out Yao on the high pick and roll? What's more bringing Yao out that far means he either has to shoot a long jumper or roll to the basket. As it is from what I remember he was way too far out even if he had seen the ball to do anything other fire off a jump shot.

    Think back to the Celtics game where Brooks, Landry and Yao were pretty much in the exact same position. Except there the play called for a Landry pick which left Yao in the paint. As it turned out Brooks didn't need the pick anyway but leaving Yao behind allowed him to scoop up an offensive rebound.
     
  9. engr_alex

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    didnt see the the game, but a pick and roll with a center is not your best option with seconds left.

    the opposing team's center would switch to the ball carrier and if you take that shot, it's gonna get contested. BY A CENTER!

    and if your center rolls to the basket, there's no time for you to dump to him. weak side defense would collapse on your center immediately. there's no more time for a 2nd pass.

    with 5 seconds to go, what you do, is you clear the middle and sets screens. let your slasher run through the screens, get the ball and attack the basket or take an outside shot. this is what deron did in the playoffs during the last few plays. he got the ball, the lane was cleared and he ran past by his defender (alston i think) and dunked the ball.

    but if you want a PnR, with that much time left, you use your SF or PF(pf preferably). cmon adelman. use your brain. i keep on saying this, adelman isnt right for the rockets. he doesnt use plays or if he does, he still relies on the players to think of the rest. you just cant do that. players will bump into each other, players will be lost on what to do. two or more of your players might have the idea of running into the same spot. then what do you do??

    cmon.
     
  10. northeastfan

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    Adelman is just stupid, then. A moron. An idiot. An imbecile. Have TMac ever won a game in the last year with the ball in his hands??
     
  11. pmac

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    Great explanation.

    I still think that Rick should have a drawn up play for Yao to get the ball from out of bounds. Even if he was too far out of his comfort zone to make the shot, the Sixers D wouldn't have given him a chance to beat them so they would have cheated or doubled. That would have freed someone up for a shot.
     
  12. northeastfan

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    As usual, the Rockets lose. Yup, we'd better get used to the usual.
     
  13. badgerfan

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    Exactly what I said, set the pick with somebody other than Yao.
     
  14. T-macsterful1

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    do you believe with the way yao played tonight he deserved it? face it, tonight t-mac was our best player, until the 4th quarter he was our 50% shooter. Made a lot of good shots, rhythm 3's. He was money. If he had more lift in his legs maybe he would've hit that who knows. But the rest of the season aside, he was our best offensive scorer tonight and the only player not hesitant to go inside despite being blocked '4' times before the last play.
     
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    Oh~, the man has already had trouble reacting quick enough just to beat others to get rebounds, now you want him to take concentration away from the ring and expecting an airball from Tmac?
     
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  17. worzel gummidge

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    Nothing ever is Tracy's fault.
     
  18. durvasa

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    Our slasher at the end of games is Tracy McGrady. He doesn't run through screens without the ball well. He's a PnR player.

    The Rockets knew they'd switch. The other team was playing small at SF and PF. If you run a PnR with their SF and PF in that situation where they're going to switch, you're playing into the defense's hands. McGrady on Dalembert is a mismatch in our favor.

    The play call was sound. It's a matter of execution, and the Rockets (in particular, McGrady and Yao) couldn't get it done.
     
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  19. durvasa

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    Why shouldn't we expect a professional basketball player, a player who's considered one of the best post players on the planet, to be able to box out and follow the flight of the ball at the same time? Is that really too much to ask?
     
  20. rocketsregle

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    Maybe Adelman didn't involve the right players for the play. Brooks and Alston have been better at turning the corner off pick-n-rolls this season. I'm not liking Von Wafer's reduced minutes ... he also could have been a good option because of his quick first step.
     

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