took cp3 long enough. So many chokes before that including being sent home by harden twice lol. Happy for the point gawd haha
probably the same reasons harden has come up short on several occasions, which is a big reason why they both needed each other. And when they were together, they were damn good
were the clippers really stacked or cp3 made us think dandre jordan is a valuable player? imho clippers are more stacked now then in cp3 time
This analogy is broken. Teams don't stash their extra points in a blow out win for use later on. That's why I said a couple posts back that your argument might fly if total point differential over the course of a season is how the winners versus losers were determined. But that's not how it works.
Were the rockets really stacked or did harden cover up so many holes on the team with his play. It’s the same thing, but only harden gets called out
Then I don't get how your logic works it just seem to just be one way. You are saying now those extra pts are worthless cuz they don't affect the outcome right? So if your team lost everything you did in the game didn't change the outcome so why isn't your entire statline zero for that game? Everything you did didn't affect the outcome just like those extra pts in a blow out. If you scored 15 pts and your team lost you could have scored 12 pts and you team still woulda lost. It would've only had an effect if you scored more than the team differential. Like you said your team doesn't stack the extra pts so if your team lost then your 30 pts for the game might as well have been zero. Teams don't stash their extra pts and in the same way a loss is a loss whether it's a blow out or a close loss right? If the game is a blow out and you score 30 pts then you say it doesn't matter. Ok so in the same vein if you lost in a close game your entire stat line doesn't matter cuz you lost. All those rebs, blocks and asts you made they didn't affect the outcome just like scoring in a blow out so if you are gonna invalidate scoring in a blow out then you should invalidate the entire stat line if the team loses.
i have no beef with cp3. Im actually happy for him, but its crazy how harden gets **** on for going through pretty much the same thing as cp3. What has lillard won( and he is seen as some elite player that has not had enough support). Harden is the villan of the nba for whatever reason i have no idea. But i have taken it upon my duty to defend harden at all cost. Twitter banned my account for no reason, their a censorship on people who support harden on twitter
I'm saying the baskets that led to those points were "worthless" if they didn't have any effect on what the outcome of the game would be. That's exactly why none of us attach any significance to made baskets in a blow out. How much a basket actually mattered is not just determined by the points the basket was worth. The score and the time remaining are also relevant factors. Your stat line is a partial record of what all you did in the game. To know how important those stats actually were to determining the win or loss in that game, you need more contextual information. If a player scores 20 points while his team was up 30 in the fourth quarter, that is impressive and probably signifies some notable basketball ability on his part, but it doesn't mean that those 20 points were a significant reason why his team won. It's not in the same vein. Nothing I said implies that the final result determines the importance of earlier events during the game. I thought I was very clear -- the importance of an event should be understood according to how it changes the likelihood of the team winning or losing the game. That's very different from saying that the importance of an event is determined according to whether the team wins or loses. A player on team A might score 30 in the first half while the score is close, then team B pulls ahead in the third, and a player on team B scores 20 in the 4th while his team is up 30. I would attach more importance to the baskets scored by the first player on the losing team in the first half than the baskets scored by the second player on the winning team during garbage time. I think anyone watching the game would do the same, because they understand that plays matter more when the outcome of the game is in doubt and matter less when the outcome is almost inevitable.
i havent heard cp3 ******** on like how harden is, cp3 lost to the grizzlies in back to back postseasons. Harden always get trashed for being benched in the 4th quarter when the rockets were down 19 in game 6 in 2015. But CP3 is NEVER called out for choking that same 19 point lead. Harden also never gets credit for scoring 31 and sending cp3 home in game 7. Harden is held to a standard that i havent seen an nba player ever held too. When he does good he gets no credit, and when he has a bad game its all over the media. Its to the point now where the nba media is not voting him all-nba i bet if the nba media had their way they wouldnt vote to make him an all-star either. This hate for harden is unlike anything any other player in the nba has ever gone through
I have. I mean when youre a obvious harden fan, your bias is going to be towards that bc that's mainly what you're going to see. But to say cp3 hasn't been shitted on is flat out false.
NO its not just me being a harden fan, Harden is memed and bullied by the nba media and casuals to the point where he becomes super underrated Harden was a shaqtin a fool mvp in 2016 and wasnt even voted all-nba despite averaging 29/7/7 and making the playoffs. That is crazy
it actually is. Shaqtin a fool is nothing more than entertainment. nobody should be taking that seriously
no other sport would they openly clown a top 5 player in that sports league in america Harden gets **** done to him by the nba media and casuals thats just plain not fair
KD gets clowned all the time. Lebron is the center of alot of controversy all the time. Giannis is getting drilled for his broke shot all the time and his vacation time he takes at the free throw line and how the bucks have come up short for years. Put the Harden goggles down for a second. He isn't the only one who gets criticized
IT's not the criticism . .. it is the levels. LeBron is probably the only person MORE criticized than Harden Giannis is getting it this year. . .but they gave him back to back MVPs playing the same way While I am not a Westbrook fan . . . he too i taken for granted too Call him Empty Stats. . . but they are stats that no other point guard is touching Rocket River
durant, kyrie and harden are the most hated players in the league. That’s y they play so well together. It’s a them vs everybody else mentality. Durant used to get so much **** when the media thought his game was taking away from their golden boy steph currys game in golden state. Then the same media got pissed when he had enough and formed his own team in brooklyn. Durant actually claps back at the haters and kyrie is great at damage controlling. Harden just takes the hate full force all the time
They gave him back to back mvps, doesnt mean he hasn't been criticized westbrick's criticism is well deserved. bc its all true. I don't think hes taken for granted. In fact, it's the opposite, he's overly hyped. It's been that way for years and him being named mvp was flat out trash
