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The bailout vote

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by robbie380, Sep 29, 2008.

  1. weslinder

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    I thought rimrocker wanted it to fail.
     
  2. basso

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    ironic, isn't it?
     
  3. Bandwagoner

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    Joe Barton
    ralph Hall
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    These are the no votes from Texas I can find. Anyone have more no votes?
     
  4. Smokey

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    Part of me wants this to fail cause **** it it's their mess.
     
  5. updawg

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    I have no problem with those that voted 'No' because thats what they truly felt was right.
    But the ones that voted a certain way due to politcal reasons, speeches etc I have a huge problem with and unfortunately its probably a lot of them.

    This goes for both sides of the aisle. I'm not married to either party, never have been never will be.
     
  6. DonnyMost

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    Let 'er go down.
     
  7. mic

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    GOP 'punished the country' 1:02
    Rep. Barney Frank says the GOP decided 'to punish the country' by not voting for the bailout.

    <script src="http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/.element/js/2.0/video/evp/module.js?loc=dom&vid=/video/politics/2008/09/29/sot.frank.bailout.reax.cnn" type="text/javascript"></script><noscript>Embedded video from <a href="http://www.cnn.com/video">CNN Video</a></noscript>
     
  8. basso

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    here's pelosi's speech. apparently 97 (not 94) democrats were offended as well, or perhaps they were just playing a different kind of politics.

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  9. basso

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    roll call:

    Ackerman D NY legislator Aye
    Allen D ME legislator Aye
    Andrews D NJ legislator Aye
    Arcuri D NY legislator Aye
    Baird D WA legislator Aye
    Baldwin D WI legislator Aye
    Bean D IL legislator Aye
    Berman D CA legislator Aye
    Berry D AR legislator Aye
    Bishop (GA) D GA legislator Aye
    Bishop (NY) D NY legislator Aye
    Boren D OK legislator Aye
    Boswell D IA legislator Aye
    Boucher D VA legislator Aye
    Boyd (FL) D FL legislator Aye
    Brady (PA) D PA legislator Aye
    Brown, Corrine D FL legislator Aye
    Capps D CA legislator Aye
    Capuano D MA legislator Aye
    Cardoza D CA legislator Aye
    Carnahan D MO legislator Aye
    Clarke D NY legislator Aye
    Clyburn D SC legislator Aye
    Cohen D TN legislator Aye
    Cooper D TN legislator Aye
    Costa D CA legislator Aye
    Cramer D AL legislator Aye
    Crowley D NY legislator Aye
    Davis (AL) D AL legislator Aye
    Davis (CA) D CA legislator Aye
    Davis (IL) D IL legislator Aye
    DeGette D CO legislator Aye
    DeLauro D CT legislator Aye
    Dicks D WA legislator Aye
    Dingell D MI legislator Aye
    Donnelly D IN legislator Aye
    Doyle D PA legislator Aye
    Edwards (TX) D TX legislator Aye
    Ellison D MN legislator Aye
    Ellsworth D IN legislator Aye
    Emanuel D IL legislator Aye
    Engel D NY legislator Aye
    Eshoo D CA legislator Aye
    Etheridge D NC legislator Aye
    Farr D CA legislator Aye
    Fattah D PA legislator Aye
    Foster D IL legislator Aye
    Frank (MA) D MA legislator Aye
    Gonzalez D TX legislator Aye
    Gordon D TN legislator Aye
    Gutierrez D IL legislator Aye
    Hall (NY) D NY legislator Aye
    Hare D IL legislator Aye
    Harman D CA legislator Aye
    Hastings (FL) D FL legislator Aye
    Higgins D NY legislator Aye
    Hinojosa D TX legislator Aye
    Holt D NJ legislator Aye
    Honda D CA legislator Aye
    Hooley D OR legislator Aye
    Hoyer D MD legislator Aye
    Israel D NY legislator Aye
    Johnson, E. B. D TX legislator Aye
    Kanjorski D PA legislator Aye
    Kennedy D RI legislator Aye
    Kildee D MI legislator Aye
    Kind D WI legislator Aye
    Klein (FL) D FL legislator Aye
    Langevin D RI legislator Aye
    Larsen (WA) D WA legislator Aye
    Larson (CT) D CT legislator Aye
    Levin D MI legislator Aye
    Loebsack D IA legislator Aye
    Lofgren, Zoe D CA legislator Aye
    Lowey D NY legislator Aye
    Mahoney (FL) D FL legislator Aye
    Maloney (NY) D NY legislator Aye
    Markey D MA legislator Aye
    Marshall D GA legislator Aye
    Matsui D CA legislator Aye
    McCarthy (NY) D NY legislator Aye
    McCollum (MN) D MN legislator Aye
    McDermott D WA legislator Aye
    McGovern D MA legislator Aye
    McNerney D CA legislator Aye
    McNulty D NY legislator Aye
    Meek (FL) D FL legislator Aye
    Meeks (NY) D NY legislator Aye
    Melancon D LA legislator Aye
    Miller (NC) D NC legislator Aye
    Miller, George D CA legislator Aye
    Mollohan D WV legislator Aye
    Moore (KS) D KS legislator Aye
    Moore (WI) D WI legislator Aye
    Moran (VA) D VA legislator Aye
    Murphy (CT) D CT legislator Aye
    Murphy, Patrick D PA legislator Aye
    Murtha D PA legislator Aye
    Nadler D NY legislator Aye
    Neal (MA) D MA legislator Aye
    Oberstar D MN legislator Aye
    Obey D WI legislator Aye
    Olver D MA legislator Aye
    Pallone D NJ legislator Aye
    Pelosi D CA speaker Aye
    Perlmutter D CO legislator Aye
    Pomeroy D ND legislator Aye
    Price (NC) D NC legislator Aye
    Rahall D WV legislator Aye
    Rangel D NY legislator Aye
    Reyes D TX legislator Aye
    Richardson D CA legislator Aye
    Ross D AR legislator Aye
    Ruppersberger D MD legislator Aye
    Ryan (OH) D OH legislator Aye
    Sarbanes D MD legislator Aye
    Schakowsky D IL legislator Aye
    Schwartz D PA legislator Aye
    Sestak D PA legislator Aye
    Sires D NJ legislator Aye
    Skelton D MO legislator Aye
    Slaughter D NY legislator Aye
    Smith (WA) D WA legislator Aye
    Snyder D AR legislator Aye
    Space D OH legislator Aye
    Speier D CA legislator Aye
    Spratt D SC legislator Aye
    Tanner D TN legislator Aye
    Tauscher D CA legislator Aye
    Towns D NY legislator Aye
    Tsongas D MA legislator Aye
    Van Hollen D MD legislator Aye
    Velazquez D NY legislator Aye
    Wasserman Schultz D FL legislator Aye
    Waters D CA legislator Aye
    Watt D NC legislator Aye
    Waxman D CA legislator Aye
    Weiner D NY legislator Aye
    Wexler D FL legislator Aye
    Wilson (OH) D OH legislator Aye
    Bachus R AL legislator Aye
    Blunt R MO legislator Aye
    Boehner R OH legislator Aye
    Bonner R AL legislator Aye
    Bono Mack R CA legislator Aye
    Boozman R AR legislator Aye
    Brady (TX) R TX legislator Aye
    Brown (SC) R SC legislator Aye
    Calvert R CA legislator Aye
    Camp (MI) R MI legislator Aye
    Campbell (CA) R CA legislator Aye
    Cannon R UT legislator Aye
    Cantor R VA legislator Aye
    Castle R DE legislator Aye
    Cole (OK) R OK legislator Aye
    Crenshaw R FL legislator Aye
    Cubin R WY legislator Aye
    Davis, Tom R VA legislator Aye
    Dreier R CA legislator Aye
    Ehlers R MI legislator Aye
    Emerson R MO legislator Aye
    Everett R AL legislator Aye
    Ferguson R NJ legislator Aye
    Fossella R NY legislator Aye
    Gilchrest R MD legislator Aye
    Granger R TX legislator Aye
    Herger R CA legislator Aye
    Hobson R OH legislator Aye
    Inglis (SC) R SC legislator Aye
    King (NY) R NY legislator Aye
    Kirk R IL legislator Aye
    Kline (MN) R MN legislator Aye
    LaHood R IL legislator Aye
    Lewis (CA) R CA legislator Aye
    Lewis (KY) R KY legislator Aye
    Lungren, Daniel E. R CA legislator Aye
    McCrery R LA legislator Aye
    McHugh R NY legislator Aye
    McKeon R CA legislator Aye
    Miller, Gary R CA legislator Aye
    Peterson (PA) R PA legislator Aye
    Pickering R MS legislator Aye
    Porter R NV legislator Aye
    Pryce (OH) R OH legislator Aye
    Putnam R FL legislator Aye
    Radanovich R CA legislator Aye
    Regula R OH legislator Aye
    Reynolds R NY legislator Aye
    Rogers (AL) R AL legislator Aye
    Rogers (KY) R KY legislator Aye
    Ryan (WI) R WI legislator Aye
    Saxton R NJ legislator Aye
    Sessions R TX legislator Aye
    Shays R CT legislator Aye
    Simpson R ID legislator Aye
    Smith (TX) R TX legislator Aye
    Souder R IN legislator Aye
    Tancredo R CO legislator Aye
    Upton R MI legislator Aye
    Walden (OR) R OR legislator Aye
    Walsh (NY) R NY legislator Aye
    Weldon (FL) R FL legislator Aye
    Wilson (NM) R NM legislator Aye
    Wilson (SC) R SC legislator Aye
    Wolf R VA legislator Aye
    Abercrombie D HI legislator No
    Altmire D PA legislator No
    Baca D CA legislator No
    Barrow D GA legislator No
    Becerra D CA legislator No
    Berkley D NV legislator No
    Blumenauer D OR legislator No
    Boyda (KS) D KS legislator No
    Braley (IA) D IA legislator No
    Butterfield D NC legislator No
    Carney D PA legislator No
    Carson D IN legislator No
    Castor D FL legislator No
    Cazayoux D LA legislator No
    Chandler D KY legislator No
    Childers D MS legislator No
    Clay D MO legislator No
    Cleaver D MO legislator No
    Conyers D MI legislator No
    Costello D IL legislator No
    Courtney D CT legislator No
    Cuellar D TX legislator No
    Cummings D MD legislator No
    Davis, Lincoln D TN legislator No
    DeFazio D OR legislator No
    Delahunt D MA legislator No
    Doggett D TX legislator No
    Edwards (MD) D MD legislator No
    Filner D CA legislator No
    Giffords D AZ legislator No
    Gillibrand D NY legislator No
    Green, Al D TX legislator No
    Green, Gene D TX legislator No
    Grijalva D AZ legislator No
    Herseth Sandlin D SD legislator No
    Hill D IN legislator No
    Hinchey D NY legislator No
    Hirono D HI legislator No
    Hodes D NH legislator No
    Holden D PA legislator No
    Inslee D WA legislator No
    Jackson (IL) D IL legislator No
    Jackson-Lee (TX) D TX legislator No
    Jefferson D LA legislator No
    Johnson (GA) D GA legislator No
    Kagen D WI legislator No
    Kaptur D OH legislator No
    Kilpatrick D MI legislator No
    Kucinich D OH legislator No
    Lampson D TX legislator No
    Lee D CA legislator No
    Lewis (GA) D GA legislator No
    Lipinski D IL legislator No
    Lynch D MA legislator No
    Matheson D UT legislator No
    McIntyre D NC legislator No
    Michaud D ME legislator No
    Mitchell D AZ legislator No
    Napolitano D CA legislator No
    Ortiz D TX legislator No
    Pascrell D NJ legislator No
    Pastor D AZ legislator No
    Payne D NJ legislator No
    Peterson (MN) D MN legislator No
    Rodriguez D TX legislator No
    Rothman D NJ legislator No
    Roybal-Allard D CA legislator No
    Rush D IL legislator No
    Salazar D CO legislator No
    Sanchez, Linda T. D CA legislator No
    Sanchez, Loretta D CA legislator No
    Schiff D CA legislator No
    Scott (GA) D GA legislator No
    Scott (VA) D VA legislator No
    Serrano D NY legislator No
    Shea-Porter D NH legislator No
    Sherman D CA legislator No
    Shuler D NC legislator No
    Solis D CA legislator No
    Stark D CA legislator No
    Stupak D MI legislator No
    Sutton D OH legislator No
    Taylor D MS legislator No
    Thompson (CA) D CA legislator No
    Thompson (MS) D MS legislator No
    Tierney D MA legislator No
    Udall (CO) D CO legislator No
    Udall (NM) D NM legislator No
    Visclosky D IN legislator No
    Walz (MN) D MN legislator No
    Watson D CA legislator No
    Welch (VT) D VT legislator No
    Woolsey D CA legislator No
    Wu D OR legislator No
    Yarmuth D KY legislator No
    Aderholt R AL legislator No
    Akin R MO legislator No
    Alexander R LA legislator No
    Bachmann R MN legislator No
    Barrett (SC) R SC legislator No
    Bartlett (MD) R MD legislator No
    Barton (TX) R TX legislator No
    Biggert R IL legislator No
    Bilbray R CA legislator No
    Bilirakis R FL legislator No
    Bishop (UT) R UT legislator No
    Blackburn R TN legislator No
    Boustany R LA legislator No
    Broun (GA) R GA legislator No
    Brown-Waite, Ginny R FL legislator No
    Buchanan R FL legislator No
    Burgess R TX legislator No
    Burton (IN) R IN legislator No
    Buyer R IN legislator No
    Capito R WV legislator No
    Carter R TX legislator No
    Chabot R OH legislator No
    Coble R NC legislator No
    Conaway R TX legislator No
    Culberson R TX legislator No
    Davis (KY) R KY legislator No
    Davis, David R TN legislator No
    Deal (GA) R GA legislator No
    Dent R PA legislator No
    Diaz-Balart, L. R FL legislator No
    Diaz-Balart, M. R FL legislator No
    Doolittle R CA legislator No
    Drake R VA legislator No
    Duncan R TN legislator No
    English (PA) R PA legislator No
    Fallin R OK legislator No
    Feeney R FL legislator No
    Flake R AZ legislator No
    Forbes R VA legislator No
    Fortenberry R NE legislator No
    Foxx R NC legislator No
    Franks (AZ) R AZ legislator No
    Frelinghuysen R NJ legislator No
    Gallegly R CA legislator No
    Garrett (NJ) R NJ legislator No
    Gerlach R PA legislator No
    Gingrey R GA legislator No
    Gohmert R TX legislator No
    Goode R VA legislator No
    Goodlatte R VA legislator No
    Graves R MO legislator No
    Hall (TX) R TX legislator No
    Hastings (WA) R WA legislator No
    Hayes R NC legislator No
    Heller R NV legislator No
    Hensarling R TX legislator No
    Hoekstra R MI legislator No
    Hulshof R MO legislator No
    Hunter R CA legislator No
    Issa R CA legislator No
    Johnson (IL) R IL legislator No
    Johnson, Sam R TX legislator No
    Jones (NC) R NC legislator No
    Jordan R OH legislator No
    Keller R FL legislator No
    King (IA) R IA legislator No
    Kingston R GA legislator No
    Knollenberg R MI legislator No
    Kuhl (NY) R NY legislator No
    Lamborn R CO legislator No
    Latham R IA legislator No
    LaTourette R OH legislator No
    Latta R OH legislator No
    Linder R GA legislator No
    LoBiondo R NJ legislator No
    Lucas R OK legislator No
    Mack R FL legislator No
    Manzullo R IL legislator No
    Marchant R TX legislator No
    McCarthy (CA) R CA legislator No
    McCaul (TX) R TX legislator No
    McCotter R MI legislator No
    McHenry R NC legislator No
    McMorris Rodgers R WA legislator No
    Mica R FL legislator No
    Miller (FL) R FL legislator No
    Miller (MI) R MI legislator No
    Moran (KS) R KS legislator No
    Murphy, Tim R PA legislator No
    Musgrave R CO legislator No
    Myrick R NC legislator No
    Neugebauer R TX legislator No
    Nunes R CA legislator No
    Paul R TX legislator No
    Pearce R NM legislator No
    Pence R IN legislator No
    Petri R WI legislator No
    Pitts R PA legislator No
    Platts R PA legislator No
    Poe R TX legislator No
    Price (GA) R GA legislator No
    Ramstad R MN legislator No
    Rehberg R MT legislator No
    Reichert R WA legislator No
    Renzi R AZ legislator No
    Rogers (MI) R MI legislator No
    Rohrabacher R CA legislator No
    Ros-Lehtinen R FL legislator No
    Roskam R IL legislator No
    Royce R CA legislator No
    Sali R ID legislator No
    Scalise R LA legislator No
    Schmidt R OH legislator No
    Sensenbrenner R WI legislator No
    Shadegg R AZ legislator No
    Shimkus R IL legislator No
    Shuster R PA legislator No
    Smith (NE) R NE legislator No
    Smith (NJ) R NJ legislator No
    Stearns R FL legislator No
    Sullivan R OK legislator No
    Terry R NE legislator No
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    Whitfield (KY) R KY legislator No
    Wittman (VA) R VA legislator No
    Young (AK) R AK legislator No
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  10. basso

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    John Lewis voted no?

    Lewis (GA) D GA legislator No

    what about the rest of the black caucus?
     
  11. weslinder

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    Patriots and friends of the Taxpayers. If you don't work for a bank, send them a thank you note.
     
  12. SamFisher

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    somebody already posted the transcript.


    There's nothing remotely offensive about it and even if so it's not a valid reason to vote for economic ruin - You are drunk on your own silliness and you keep getting put in the slammer for public intoxication, give it a rest.
     
  13. mic

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    I read the speech, and honestly, I found it far from offensive. Not to the point of putting the country in jeopardy.
     
  14. B-Bob

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    Is it not like saying "it's their mess" when some dumb kid sets fire to your apartment building? You live in it too.
     
  15. JeopardE

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    America's leadership fails. Again.

    We have become a laughing stock before the world.
     
  16. basso

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    AYES

    Ackerman
    Allen
    Andrews
    Arcuri
    Bachus
    Baird
    Baldwin
    Bean
    Berman
    Berry
    Bishop (GA)
    Bishop (NY)
    Blunt
    Boehner
    Bonner
    Bono Mack
    Boozman
    Boren
    Boswell
    Boucher
    Boyd (FL)
    Brady (PA)
    Brady (TX)
    Brown (SC)
    Brown, Corrine
    Calvert
    Camp (MI)
    Campbell (CA)
    Cannon
    Cantor
    Capps
    Capuano
    Cardoza
    Carnahan
    Castle
    Clarke
    Clyburn
    Cohen
    Cole (OK)
    Cooper
    Costa
    Cramer
    Crenshaw
    Crowley
    Cubin
    Davis (AL)
    Davis (CA)
    Davis (IL)
    Davis, Tom
    DeGette
    DeLauro
    Dicks
    Dingell
    Donnelly
    Doyle
    Dreier
    Edwards (TX)
    Ehlers
    Ellison
    Ellsworth
    Emanuel
    Emerson
    Engel
    Eshoo
    Etheridge
    Everett
    Farr
    Fattah
    Ferguson
    Fossella
    Foster
    Frank (MA)
    Gilchrest
    Gonzalez
    Gordon
    Granger
    Gutierrez
    Hall (NY)
    Hare
    Harman
    Hastings (FL)
    Herger
    Higgins
    Hinojosa
    Hobson
    Holt
    Honda
    Hooley
    Hoyer
    Inglis (SC)
    Israel
    Johnson, E. B.
    Kanjorski
    Kennedy
    Kildee
    Kind
    King (NY)
    Kirk
    Klein (FL)
    Kline (MN)
    LaHood
    Langevin
    Larsen (WA)
    Larson (CT)
    Levin
    Lewis (CA)
    Lewis (KY)
    Loebsack
    Lofgren, Zoe
    Lowey
    Lungren, Daniel E.
    Mahoney (FL)
    Maloney (NY)
    Markey
    Marshall
    Matsui
    McCarthy (NY)
    McCollum (MN)
    McCrery
    McDermott
    McGovern
    McHugh
    McKeon
    McNerney
    McNulty
    Meek (FL)
    Meeks (NY)
    Melancon
    Miller (NC)
    Miller, Gary
    Miller, George
    Mollohan
    Moore (KS)
    Moore (WI)
    Moran (VA)
    Murphy (CT)
    Murphy, Patrick
    Murtha
    Nadler
    Neal (MA)
    Oberstar
    Obey
    Olver
    Pallone
    Pelosi
    Perlmutter
    Peterson (PA)
    Pickering
    Pomeroy
    Porter
    Price (NC)
    Pryce (OH)
    Putnam
    Radanovich
    Rahall
    Rangel
    Regula
    Reyes
    Reynolds
    Richardson
    Rogers (AL)
    Rogers (KY)
    Ross
    Ruppersberger
    Ryan (OH)
    Ryan (WI)
    Sarbanes
    Saxton
    Schakowsky
    Schwartz
    Sessions
    Sestak
    Shays
    Simpson
    Sires
    Skelton
    Slaughter
    Smith (TX)
    Smith (WA)
    Snyder
    Souder
    Space
    Speier
    Spratt
    Tancredo
    Tanner
    Tauscher
    Towns
    Tsongas
    Upton
    Van Hollen
    Velázquez
    Walden (OR)
    Walsh (NY)
    Wasserman Schultz
    Waters
    Watt
    Waxman
    Weiner
    Weldon (FL)
    Wexler
    Wilson (NM)
    Wilson (OH)
    Wilson (SC)
    Wolf
     
  17. JeffB

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    Pelosi adlibs some lines in which she takes some shots at Bush and Republicans and pats Bill Clinton on the back. Even that isn't all that nasty or enough of a reason to put partisan emotions above country....

    Watching a CNN stream online: European banks are buying equity stakes to recapitalize their banks. Why doesn't the US just craft a plan to do the same thing? We saved AIG this way. Let's save other institutions this way and, in the process, socialize the gains and the losses in a more direct, transparent, simple way without having to play the maverick, market trader game. It is sickening watching politicians pretend that Paulson's premise is the only premise upon which to build a workable plan.
     
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    paulson was pissed when he spoke a few min ago and rightfully so. this vote continues to prove that washington just doesn't get it. if nothing is done overnight tomorrow will be an absolute bloodbath.
     

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