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Sura's triple-double disallowed

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by LongTimeFan, Apr 13, 2004.

  1. LongTimeFan

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    Good. Nobody wins win you cheat the game.

    http://www.nba.com/news/sura_040413.html

    NEW YORK, April 13 --The National Basketball Association today disallowed a missed field goal attempt and ensuing rebound which gave Atlanta Hawk guard Bob Sura a statistical "triple-double" in the Hawks' 129-107 victory over the New Jersey Nets on April 12.

    In the closing seconds of that game, Sura intentionally missed a layup and grabbed the rebound.

    The NBA rule book states that "A field goal attempt is a player's attempt to shoot the ball into the basket for a field goal."

    The league ruled that Sura did not attempt a field goal, and therefore there was no rebound.
     
  2. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    Cheating is a harsh word, don't you think?
     
  3. Austin70

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    Is that like posting a :D for your 1000 post?
     
  4. tierre_brown

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    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1781342

    A little more info...

    ATLANTA -- The NBA took away Bob Sura's third straight triple-double Tuesday, ruling he shouldn't get credit for one rebound because he intentionally missed a shot just before the buzzer.


    Sura thought he was the first NBA player since Grant Hill in 1997 to have three straight games with double figures in scoring, rebounding and assists.


    But the NBA said his tactics in the Hawks' 129-107 win over New Jersey on Monday violated the rule that states, "A field goal attempt is a player's attempt to shoot the ball into the basket for a field goal."


    Since Sura wasn't trying to make the shot, the NBA said, he shouldn't get credit for a field goal attempted. Therefore, there was no rebound.


    The journeyman guard had 22 points and 11 assists when he intentionally missed a layup just before the buzzer so he could get his 10th rebound.


    "Actually, the ball slipped," Sura said, laughing and not making any pretense at being serious. "All the guys on the team were screaming at me to do it. It was kind of a reaction thing. I just did it."


    His intentional miss rekindled memories of Ricky Davis' blatant attempt to pad his stats last season.


    Davis, then with Cleveland, was roundly criticized when he tried to finish off his first career triple-double by shooting at the wrong basket, missing and getting the rebound. Before it could happen, a Utah player wrapped his arms around Davis and was called for a foul.


    Davis was fined by the Cavaliers, and the league pointed out a rule barring players from trying to score for the other team.


    At least Sura was shooting at his own basket when he missed, but the NBA said it didn't matter.


    Sura picked up the first triple-double of his eight-year career on Friday, when he put up 12 points, 12 assists and 11 rebounds at Chicago. The following night, he had 15 points, 11 assists and 10 rebounds against Boston.
     
  5. Austin70

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    I remember a couple of weeks ago Kobe threw up a shot straight off the back board, got it back on made the basket. I guess he didn't get credit for the rebound since he was trying to make it.
     
  6. drapg

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    Awesome.
     
  7. meh

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    Does anyone have a clip of the "shot"? I can't imagine a shot so bad it's no longer considered a shot. Is the league trying to be just anal here?
     
  8. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I think they're just trying to put an end to this, even though it isn't running rampant.
     
  9. meh

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    But is it right to do something like this? I mean, padding stats is as old as the league itself. Why penalize Sura? If he attempted a shot and missed, no matter his intentions, why should it not be counted a shot attempt? Are we going to start disallowing points scored by stars to pad his PPG at the end of 30pt blowout games? I don't see how they're different. Neither does anything other than to gain more personal accomplishments.
     
  10. drapg

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    He didn't even get the ball over the basket. It got wedged between the backboard and the rim, and came back down. It was obvious he wasn't trying to make the shot.
     
  11. BiGGieStuFF

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    Next time a player should have his teammate shoot the ball and miss. Wouldn't look so bad :). At least bob sura shot at his own basket. I guess it shouldn't matter but to disallow someone's stats because the league doesn't agree? What's next? Houston actually getting some calls from the refs?? :D
     
  12. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Who cares, it is only statistics...the only thing that should really matter is who wins the game.

    DD
     
  13. OverRRated

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    That's showing him NBA.
    ;)

    I know how we could celebrate this, add another team to the league.
    :D
     
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    i think the nba's decision was right. it shouldn't count. i hate when players do things like that to pat their stats.
     
  15. Rocketeer

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    This is stupid. I understand what Sura did was wrong and selfish, but how is the NBA going to disallow something in the books when this situation has happened before? What about Ricky Davis' TD last year, how come that one counts and not Sura's? I think the display itself is going to give him a bad image, isn't that enough?
     
  16. sup123

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    the nba is full of Sh2t. A rebound is rebound. Who cares if he did it on purpose.
     
  17. Puedlfor

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    Because if he wasn't trying to make the shot, there is no shot attempt. No shot attempt, no rebound.

    Davis' TD didn't count - because it is against the rules to shoot on your own basket. No shot attempt, no rebound.

    At least Davis was creative in his attempt to get a triple-double - blowing a shot in the last seconds of a 20 point win - bah.
     
  18. vj23k

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    You know, if he had done something like get a teammate to throw the ball off the backboard for him to dunk, he probably would have been given the rebound plus another two points.
     
  19. Easy

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    Maybe the NBA should go back to review some of Moses Malone's offensive rebounds. :D
     
  20. ZRB

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    I don't think there was anything wrong with it. It's a 48-minute game, no matter what the score.

    The NBA should work on improving officiating and getting better players, not sh*t like this.
     

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