Early info from Exit Polls: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.co...ives-seem-split-could-be-long-night-for-dems/ Basically, conservatives are splitting their vote between Romney/Huckabee while McCain is pulling in the moderates. On the Dem side, late-breakers are splitting evenly as well. That's not ideal for Obama, who was probably counting on a big llast-minute split as he has in previous primariles. And, of course, exit polls don't include early voters, which probably favor Clinton since she was ahead a few weeks ago when early voting started.
Many many years ago before he became saturated by politics, I used to listen to his radio show and some of what he said was pretty good. But ever since he turned into a political zealot, he's lost all credibility with me.
i was just about to say that exact thing. my family has been to the focus on the family headquarters in colorado...they're nuts i tell ya...
If you believe Drudge, this night has the potential to be huge for Obama. Clinton holds on to California, but Obama wins a majority of the states, including New Jersey, Missouri, Connecticut and Massachusetts. It wouldn't end the race by any stretch as long as Hillary wins California, but if Obama wins a majority of the states heading into states next week that are friendly to him... he's definitely the favorite.
After Kerry and Gore, I'm suspicious of exit polls , but there does seem to be a ton of potential there! Hopefully the early voting doesn't mess things up, but if Obama wins all the close states except California, that will be amazing. CNN just reported Georgia exit poll details, and Obama obliterated Clinton with voters under 35 or so (something like 75-25). He also got 88% of the black vote and 40% of the white vote, both of which top South Carolina.
Absolutely. If he can even pull 35 percent of the white vote on a national level, he's in great shape. To pull 39 percent of Southern whites is extremely impressive and shows a ton of potential.
Rove on Fox: "If white democrats in Georgia are voting for Obama, then white Democrats across America are voting for Obama."
EDIT: read that wrong. Anyway, full results are out from CNN: http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/epolls/#MODEM Change the state to see whatever you want to see.
The actual numbers in Massachusetts, Missouri and New Jersey aren't holding up at all with the exits... looks like Drudge's source, whatever it is, may have whiffed on this one. Hillary looking a bit stronger as the night goes on.
I chuckled, but I think it's an old and inaccurate cliche. Really do. Look even now at the results: Georgia and Alabama versus New York and Mass. Southern white folks, on average (not the extreme bigots), are more comfortable and more integrated with people of color than people in other areas. It took me moving to (ultra-segregated and uncomfy) California to figure that out.
Yeah, that's not a great sign unfortunately. It would have been nice to take those northeast states. Hopefully the western states hold up or trends really change in the northeast.
Hillary projected to win NJ. But Obama got about 20 delegates more than suspected in GA. and IL. They've out performed expectations there. Too early to call has Obama in the lead in MN, and Hillary in the lead in MO.
What's good about awarding delegates proportionally is it prevents machines from deciding things. Thomas Menino supported Clinton. He hasn't been mayor for 15 years because he has inspired people.
Obama won Alabama. Hillary got AK. Although Hillary won MASS it's pretty amazing Obama did as well as he did. The last poll before the Kennedy endorsement had Obama at 22%. It looks like he did a lot better than that in the end. I have no idea what will happen the rest of the night. I will say this, and of course it has nothing to do with the final results, but I can't imagine people being excited to go out and vote for Hillary. I can understand that they think she will be good, and they like her policies. But I just can't see folks being eager, and super enthusiastic in voting for her. Of course I could be wrong, and maybe there are people out there who love Hillary and can't wait to vote for her. The people that I know of that support Obama, were excited and eager to go out and vote for Obama, they were very happy to have voted for Obama, so maybe Obama will bring out more voters. As an Obama supporter I'm really happy that he over performed in Ill, and GA as well as making up so much ground in Mass. NJ looks a little disappointing for Obama.
Early returns here have Obama well ahead in MN and if the caucus I went to was representative he might win MN big.
Hillary Clinton needed to step on Obama's neck today. This was where the Clinton name, and various machines built over the years, would hold the most power. The longer this goes on, the more people get to know Obama, the worse it is for the Clintons.
I think a lot of you guys are showing your biases. This was a no-win scenario for Clinton. If she did great, you guys had declared that something that should have happened. If she does fairly well, it's a moral victory for Obama because you set the bar so low. Newsflash: people know Obama too. He's raised more advertising money, and it's not even close. He has won several states. He's not some new kid on the block like he was in Iowa. He's a good candidate, and he has his base. But Clinton has her base too and it's of a comparable size, and it's going to be a close battle for some time. As for tonight, Clinton is significantly outgaining what the polls have estimated her with in many of these states over the past week. That's a fairly clear sign that this Obama wave isn't all the media is cracking it out to be.
Its going to be interesting to see how Obama's strategy of campaigning everywhere versus Hillary's strategy of focussing on the big states will play out.
