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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by leebigez, Mar 5, 2009.

  1. el_locoteee

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    Maybe because we have the worst officiated player in the NBA.

    If Lebron or Dwhistle was on our team we probably be real happy about the Refs.
     
  2. yao123

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    f0ck you!!!!!!!!! let me give you a water fun and i get a 9mm and we both shoot at each other lets see who win...same **** cheating...this team is clearly the best...****ing referees affected the way they play because they have to be limited at everything they do
     
  3. tinman

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    This must be the first time some people ever saw a Jazz vs Rockets game.
    From the reactions of most people here, it is.

    we weren't blown out like we were in game 6 last year with Tmac minus Yao.
    So it really wasn't that bad of a loss.
     
  4. UTAllTheWay

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    I'm talking about when Yao isn't on the floor...
     
  5. francis 4 prez

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    but we can't build our team just to beat utah. there is no doubt they are a terrible matchup for us. our best defenders are at the 2, 3, and 5. so where are utah's best offensive players? the 1 and the 4 of course. and they have a 4 and 5 who can shoot jumpers which is pretty much yao's kryptonite, and they have a pg who can shoot jumpers, which again pretty much kills yao in the PnR. they set picks and expertly cut to the basket to get inside against our D which is all about protecting the paint and lets very few teams in the paint (especially if yao is in the game). we like to force jumpers, everyone on their team hits jumpers. we have 2 elite wing defenders, they have no elite wing players to guard. they are long and athletic, we aren't. they force role players to beat them and not spread the floor. we have role players who can spread the floor but not beat you by themselves.

    if you were building a team to beat the rockets, you would build the utah jazz (kind of like if you were going to build a team to beat cleveland, you would probably build something close to the rockets). fortunately, not many other teams are built to beat us like this (the other superior teams just have more talent). unfortunately, the seedings keep working out to make us play them in the playoffs. if we somehow end up playing them again i'm gonna have to break something.
     
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    The officials weren't the reason we lost, however we still have every right to be upset. This issue with how Yao is officiated is clearly a problem. I know he is hard to officiate but these flops, cheapies and shaky retaliation fouls have gotten old. It's not like it wavers: some games it works out in our favor, others it kills us. Yao never gets the benefit of the doubt which is why i'm glad he finally stepped up, acted out of character and went after the officials in his post-game interview.

    Did we lose because of two flops? No, so I definitely see the point of those sick of hearing about the "crying". I am too, outside of this how-Yao-is-officiated issue.
     
  7. dragon111

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    Utah has been a thorn in Houston's side forever...we all knew what to expect playing there...and despite Utah being at home...getting all the calls their way...playing the perfect game with Deron going nuts in the fourth...and the Rockets playing sub par basketball....they BARELY won...i mean the game was close all the way...i have no complaints i think if we meet them in the playoffs we'll actually get past them this year
     
  8. s3ts

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    Brooks and Lowry did not equal Williams offensively. And I know that they will never ever be like him.

    There might come a point where they can combine to be a Williams, but that is still far away.

    IMO, our Guard position was HIGHLY outmatched.



    You talk about canceling players out, but that's not how it goes.

    You were right, there are big match up problems when any team plays the Jazz. Yao is forced to come out of the paint to guard a player, because of the mismatch. Once that happens, it's not very hard for the man having possession of the ball to drive in and put in an easy layup just because Yao is so slow. Somebody mentioned using zone defense as an alternative to fix this problem, but even that didn't work as Boozer was wide open for Js all the time.

    You think about the Jazz and how versatile (one of your words) they are... We can't match that. The Jazz exploited the Rockets' slow-paced, half-court game by running every stretch. Especially when you look at the highlights, you see Yao coming out to defend Boozer with Boozer still nailing down the J. We can't fix that. The only way we can match up against the Jazz is if we had a roster change.

    IMO, the Rockets will never be able to beat the Jazz come playoff time just because of the match-up and style of play. The Rockets have no answer to the type of offense that the Jazz have.
     
  9. TMac4Life#1

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    I'm glad someone made a thread like this and I agree with you. Things do tend to get out of hand and guys need to calm down. We are not going to win every game. You win some and you lose some. 39-23 is not a bad record. Its not the end of the world. I can understand if it was a playoff game that's one thing but being its a season game you can always make up for that.

    As for the Aaron Brooks situation you couldn't have said it any better. I find that funny also that guys are dissing Brooks now. Before it was bench Rafer so Brooks can start blah blah blah. Now Alston is gone and Brooks is the starter and guys are flipping on him saying we need to start Lowry. NBA players are human. Guys tend to go through their down falls. No one in the NBA goes hard every single game.
     
  10. T_Man

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    Good Post
     
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    Boozer was mainly on the floor when Yao was on the floor. And I don't think he scored a single point when Yao was on the bench.
     
  12. DVauthrin

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    they would be idiots to not have Okur and boozer on the floor whenever yao is playing.

    FWIW, the refs are not why the rockets lost. the rockets had chances to take the lead in the 4th and squandered them. But the refs certainly had a role in the outcome.
     
  13. northeastfan

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    I agree with most of the points of the OP; however, NBA games at this level are determined by just a few possessions (see Morey's quote in the NY Times article about Battier). If Yao doesn't pick up those very questionable offensive fouls or of Artest does pick up his charge or if the one Jazz basket is taken away because the player was out of bound, that's more than enough to swing the game. Lots of things can swing the game; biased officiating is one of them.
     
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    Do you think we should start Chuck instead of Yao when we face a team like Utah? Seriously, Yao is proven inefficient on defense for this combo. But Boozer is not a super star. He needs his rhythm to score. If chuck makes him out of rhythm, putting back Yao on him may make him forget how to shoot. I am just tired to see Yao on Boozer. Boozer never has been good until he plays Yao starting Game 3 in the playoff. This time Boozer was in a slump but revived last night. :(
    Yao on Boozer is a failed experiment.
     
  15. leebigez

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    Deke shut boozer down last yr, why can't yao?
     
  16. ibm

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    boozer and okur combo are a bad matchup for us, no doubt. but pls don't overstate it like it. okur didn;t do much last night and fouled out before yao did; boozer was 20/17 yes, but that's not like something that would drop your jaws. when scola got 15/15 or 19/16 a few nights ago, i didn't hear nothing like how unguardable he was.
     
  17. Old Man Rock

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    This game was porly officiated and Yao recieved the worst treatment. Any idiot can see it. :mad:

    Okay any idiot but LeeBigIdiot.
     
  18. DVauthrin

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    yao isn't the defensive player deke is. plus boozer has confidence he can destroy Yao offensively.
     
  19. t_mac1

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    boozer was a borderlien scrub v. us last yr. he got 20 and 17 last night.

    adelman has to adjust and put deke or hayes in some more. offense wasn't a problem with yao out last night.
     
  20. ibm

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    another overstatement which i doubt what kinda sense you're trying to make. deke shut down boozer? you've got numbers to back it up?

    and even if he did, what's your point? heck, yao was 25/10 the year before, why couldn't deke do that?
     

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