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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by DrewP, Nov 4, 2003.

  1. DrewP

    DrewP Member

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    Today I joined a stock market game online to compete against other people at my school. I get 500,000 dollars to invest without any restrictions. The game ends around May so theres alot of time left, but I need to get together a game plan.

    Anyone want to offer some advice?
     
  2. don grahamleone

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    if you really want to win, then study some of the high risk, high reward stocks and deversify in those a bit. Only do this if you are trying to beat everyone else in the school. Otherwise, diversify quite a bit. Dell, Dow and are the only stocks I pay attention to. Dow and Dell look like they are on the up and up right now, but after a few days of going up, they'll usually drop a bit. So if you want to gamble, sell short after a big increase the previous day.
     
  3. AMS

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    haha i did that too at school, i get 100, 000 dollars

    i invested in WPO when it was at 680 a week ago, now its at 730
     
  4. Mr. Mooch

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    Invest in what made all of my Bar Mitzvah money sky rocket!.......










    WORLD COM!!! :)



    Okay, so the quarterly was upside down.









    Stupid stockbroker. [​IMG]
     
  5. bigtexxx

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    Blue Horseshoe loves Anacot Steel.





    .....If you don't know that line, you shouldn't be investing...
     
  6. SLA

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    Yeah lol! Man...I only get 100,000! But it's rate of return...well good luck.

    www.smartmoney.com

    Lots of info...
     
  7. Nomar

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    What about efficient market hypothesis. You can't beat the market.

    So invest in indexed mutual funds and just get your modest return and beat everybody.
     
  8. Dubious

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    Netflix is a hot pick. NFLX
     
  9. robbie380

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    efficient market hypothesis is bs. that is just my opinion from experience. if you look at the experiences of the tons of people who do beat the market then you will see it is bs as well.
     
  10. robbie380

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    can you trade as much as you want or do you have to stay invested in the companies?

    if you can trade a lot then email me at robbie31580@hotmail.com

    if you can't trade a lot then look at stocks like XMSR, NTE, and a few others. those are just some ones that i can think of off the top of my head that are good winners. out of those i like XMSR the best. satellite radio will be huge and XM is crushing SIRI. don't be mislead by SIRI's much cheaper stock price and think it will go up faster. another investing one that i just thought of is FONR. they are the only company that makes standing MRI machines. i heard about them awhile back but it was a bad time to buy them. now they look like they are at a good point in their stock chart with good fundamentals and the only one who makes that product. i can explain to you the chart formation if you are interested, if not then just follow what i say. aight...well email me if you can trade and if not then do what i say and you'll be alright. but wait on buying XMSR...it will come back some to probably around the 19's so wait for it to get there and then buy.
     
  11. lggarcia

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    if you don't have to actually execute trades in a simulated market and liquidity or bid/ask spreads aren't a problem then penny stocks are the only way to go. Also if you are not concerned with the sharpe ratio... Why tie up $40 in capital in one share to move $0.15 when you can tie that same amount in a stock worth $0.05 and have it move $0.01. Just diversify so you don't lost it all. Reason it doesn't work in the real world is liquidity is too thin.. try to buy you raise the market and when you sell you crush it just to unload... that and the vol will kill give any money manager a heart attack. If you don't have to make the market or try find a counterparty and just use daily closes.. easy to win a game that way
     
  12. mrpaige

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    Take it, and bid it.
     
  13. droxford

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    The name of your game is: make as much as you can - as fast as you can.

    Try getting in on an IPO, learn how to place limit orders and stops.

    Also, look into buying "put"s

    -- droxford
     
  14. wizkid83

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    Diversifcation is key. Try to get atleast 20 different stocks that are not that interrelated.
     
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    I knew people in high school who did very well at that game by watching for and buying stock in companies that were going to merge with bigger companies.
     
  16. DrewP

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    There are no real limits in this thing. We are using www.virtualstockexchange.com

    Market Open Orders
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    Market Orders
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    Market Volume
    All competition creators have the ability to determine the volume level at which users within the competition may trade securities. This volume is based on the actual, real-life volume of the stock. VSE users cannot purchase more shares than specified in the Competition Rules (i.. exceed the Market Volume %). For example, the Individual Competition has a trading volume allowance of 100%. If a VSE user in the Individual Competition was interested in buying stock in Company X, and Company X has a trading volume of 100,000 shares at the time the user was placing a trade, the VSE user would be able to buy up to a maximum of 100,000 shares.

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    Mutual Funds

    Closed vs Open Funds

    Open-end funds are generally referred to as mutual funds. They have a varying number of outstanding shares, hence the name open-end. When you buy shares of a mutual fund, you buy from the fund. When you sell shares of a mutual fund, you sell to the fund. The fund must give you cash, decreasing the net assets of the fund. All Open-end mutual fund orders will be placed at the current trading day's closing Net Asset Value or Public Offering Price, which is calculated once per day after the close of trading, 4:00 pm EST. The order entry cutoff time for Open-end mutual funds is 4:00pm EST, orders entered after the cutoff time will be placed the following business day. VSE will execute all Open-end mutual fund orders approximately 7:30pm EST.

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  17. Lil

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    well, the question is:

    do you want to win the game or do you just want make sure your stocks to do ok?

    if you do, DON'T diversify.

    put everything in an EXTREMELY high risk security, something either with unbelievably high volatility (usually find them in penny stocks), or a company that has been on the rocks recently.

    and then roll the dice.

    if your stock is good, make your killing (say 50%-100%), and get out of the stock. you might win the game on that one move alone. if the gain is not enough, gamble again. if your stock is bad, then oh well, wait 'til next year.

    in a field of 500+ contestants, people who diversify will get average returns. And average returns will NOT win the game. It's that simple. ;)
     
  18. Lil

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    "if you do want to win" is what i meant...
     
  19. pippendagimp

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    You know why fund managers can't beat the S&P 500? Because they're sheep. And sheep get slaughtered!
     
  20. F.D. Khan

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    " Their analysts don't know preferred stock from livestock"



    In those games you simply have to be aggressive as hell to win. The object is a one year scenario, if you play the smart, probably, diversified route, you will lose.

    Find one or two extreme positions and maximize them with leverage.

    I would suggest using leverage to short the treasury bond. And I would short the Nasdaq and the S&P 500, preferably the Nasdaq. RYDEX has mutual funds that accomplish some of this.

    Do that till year end, then ask again and we'll see where the market is.

    This is never a strategy you want to actually do. But these games are only won if someone makes the right extreme bets, though he has the potential to lose all of it.
     

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