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Spurs make a deal

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by drapg, Aug 5, 2002.

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  1. drapg

    drapg Member

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    Spurs give up Antonio Daniels, Amal McCaskill, and Charles Smith to Portland for Steve Kerr and Erick Barkley.

    I don't get it. Why bring back Kerr? They need more slashers, not spot up shooters!
     
  2. bajabill

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    If you saw them against the LAL in the playoffs, a spot up shooter who can hit a wide open shot is exactly what they need. Daniels, Smith and Ferry were worthless. This year it will probably be Kerr and Ginobili with the wide open Js. Much better.
     
  3. AroundTheWorld

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    Strange deal, I thought Daniels was one of Duncan's best friends, plus, he is much younger and fitter than Kerr. Perhaps they thought he was going to demand too much money when his contract would be up?
     
  4. Kayman

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    Can someone explain to me how this works under CBA.

    Blazers who are waaaay over the cap receive:

    Amal McCaskill $612,435
    Charles Smith $612,435
    Antonio Daniels $ 3,375,000

    Total $4.6M

    San Antonio receives

    Steve Kerr $2,625,000
    Erick Barkley $819,000

    Total $3.45M

    The salaries are not within 15% + 100K
     
  5. vj23k

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    What?

    They gave up two of their best guards for an aging spot up shooter and a young PG who hasn't shown much(Hasn't had much of a chance, but still...)

    Why?
     
  6. smoothie

    smoothie Jabari Jungle

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    i tihnk the reason for this trade from a spurs perspective is that they already have parker and claxton. theyt would have no time for daniels at the point.

    what i dont understand is why they would trade charles smith too? if they were goin to bring in someone from the blazers, why erik barkley? do they not have enough promise at the point with parker and claxton? they shouldve got kerr and woods IMO.
     
  7. Nutcracker

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    there has got to be a draft pick or something in this trade. Why would you give up 2 very athletic players in smith and daniels, for kerr and Barkley. Granted Kerr can shoot, but you lose a whole lot in everything else and Barkley has done nothing in the NBA.
     
  8. R0ckets03

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    Lets wait for The Cat to explain why this deal will propel the Spers to the NBA Finals.
     
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    i think there were future consideration in that trade. The spurs are'nt fools they are doing something.
     
  10. mfclark

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    It's designed to clear cap space, I think - but not in the obvious way.

    AD is friends with Duncan, but has a huge cap figure after this year - he'll hit the cap at nearly $6,000,000, a hindrance to their plans for next year. They could renounce him, but risk getting nothing for him.

    With the deal, they at least get Erick Barkley, a cheap replacement, in return for him - and Barkley may not even be picked up for the third year. If they want Daniels back, they can likely re-sign him after they make the deals next offseason.

    Too bad for the Blazers that Kerr was their only fan favorite, lol. It's obvious what the Spurs are doing, though - surrouding Duncan with all of the jump shooters they can find.
     
  11. Kayman

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    Manu and Speedy are good slashers/penetrators
     
  12. drapg

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    yes there was a draft pick involved which I forgot to put in my original post.

    Portland also sent the 2003 second round draft pick acquired last year when the Blazers traded Steve Smith to San Antonio for Kerr and Derek Anderson.

    I don't think it helps the deal seem any more sensible though. Its a 2nd round pick!
     
  13. drapg

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    aren't the contracts of McCaskill, Daniels, and Smith all expiring after this upcoming season? I'm pretty sure they are. So this trade still makes no sense, unless there is a followup. Maybe Cleveland realized they need a true PG and covet Barkley? Or maybe Damon Stoudamire is now on the block with Daniels in Portland. There are probably repurcussions based on this deal. Just a thought

    edit: what about a NY/POR deal... stoudamire for knight/ward?
     
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    drapg - yeah, they are...that's why I mentioned "not in the obvious way" and then explained the part about Daniels and having to renounce him versus potentially getting something in return for him. I agree, though - another deal has to be forthcoming.
     
  15. The Cat

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    Terrible, terrible trade for the Spurs. It's not that this makes them worse... Daniels wouldn't have had much of a role anyway. But, they could've been a lot better. The Spurs need another big man. There were rumors about Chris Mihm, Rasho Nesterovic... and now Erick Barkley and Steve Kerr?

    I think Barkley can be a fine point guard. But, I don't see any difference between him and Speedy Claxton, who the Spurs traded for last month. No need for Parker, Claxton, and Barkley... something else must be in the works, or this is a bad trade.

    This doesn't make the Spurs worse, as I'm sure many will argue. But Daniels was an unnecessary piece that had value around the league... and the Spurs got nothing they needed in return. Unless there's another move, this is a bad trade.
     
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    Why the glass is half empty attitude today my friend? ;)
     
  17. The Cat

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    No other way to look at it... Steve Kerr is Steve Kerr, and the Spurs already have two good point guards. No need for Barkley. Very disappointing trade unless there's another trade with Barkley also lined up...

    Apparently this was a luxury tax move (the Spurs save one million), though, and this will allow the Spurs to sign a veteran big man to near the minimum. AD was their one chance to acquire a decent big man this summer without trading good value, and they blew it. (unless Barkley is shipped within the next 48 hours)
     
  18. kidrock8

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    Did Por have a trade exception?
     
  19. The Cat

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    Yup... their trade exception actually came from the Derek Anderson sign and trade last summer.
     
  20. RocksMillenium

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    What a stupid deal. I disagree this makes the Spurs worse. They were having a tough enough time scoring against teams like the Lakers, now they give up fine scorer, and a guy capable of creating his own shot. At least get Derek Anderson back! Unless they make another deal who exactly is their shooting guard instead of Steve Smith? Somebody fell asleep at the wheel in Spurs headquarters. Or was smoking crack, or something.
     

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