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SOTU 2013

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rimrocker, Feb 8, 2013.

  1. Cohete Rojo

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    Hopefully he remembers to call it the United States of America and not the United State of America.
     
  2. Commodore

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    The Hammer is spot on about what Obama will say:

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi..._to_be_extremely_aggressive_and_partisan.html

     
  3. rimbaud

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    Don't you remember all the fundraisers and bake sales the Republicans threw for the Democrats after the 1994, 2000, 2002, 2004 and 2010 elections?
     
  5. bigtexxx

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    well I'll tell you one thing he won't be able to discuss: any kind of success that he's achieved. Our foreign policy has been a failure, unemployment is shamefully high and we've never seen political gridlock like we have today. Obama has been a complete failure unless all you care about is gay marriage and increased spending.
     
  6. Commodore

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    Wish they would go back to the old days where the POTUS just sent a letter to Congress. Now it's all pomp, like they are royalty rather than public servants.

    Cliff notes:

    1. Give me your money.

    2. I need to spend/borrow/print more of your money to improve the economy.

    3. If we reduce the rate of spending growth, people will suffer and die.

    4. I want to spend your money on corporate welfare, roads and bridges, and public sector employees.

    5. We need to amnesty all the illegals here.

    6. We need to tax corporations for carbon output. This will cool the Earth.

    7. I will bypass the legislature if need be to implement all this, for the good of the nation.

    8. People that disagree with me are petty and partisan and just want to help the rich.

    9. Resistance is futile. Kneel before Zod.
     
  7. gifford1967

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    scoreboard bruh
    four more years
     
  8. QdoubleA

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    I doubt it. I don't foresee the kind of blockage and vitriol aimed at Obama happening again any time soon. Compromise is more then possible, but not with these republicans, not with the teaparty. For the time being though, Obama will steam-roll his policies in and all republicans can do is insult him on message boards.
     
  9. Commodore

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    this is actually this gist of Obama's SOTU
     
  10. gifford1967

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    awesome
    will watch
     
  11. Realjad

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    Obama will say the same thing he always says in the many other sotu addresses he has given but with an addition of gun stuff and more of a focus on cyber security/warfare

    Pretty sure the focus is going to be cyber security warfare, calling it now just watch

    Blah blah blah boring yada yada yada
     
  12. NotInMyHouse

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    Hmm...

    I hope you're right in that people start to learn how to get along. I just have no faith in politicians it seems, and why should I? I just see things being "tit for tat" as we trudge ahead. I'll be floored if we have a Republican President and Senate in the future, along with a Democrat House, and the two sides actually get some work done, as well as find common ground with the rest of the American people.

    Maybe some good, old-fashioned term limits in Congress might spur folks to get along better?

    At this point I look upon both established parties as being nothing more than entrenched, self-serving, self-important asshats. They play us all against one another fomenting hatred and schisms for their own purposes.

    ^
    Wow, reading that back sounds kinda like I could be some sort of hard-line nut or conspiracy theorist, but it's what I really believe. Politicians enriching themselves at our expense.
     
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  14. Commodore

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    The country is divided about how to solve major problems.

    It makes perfect sense that little will get done until a consensus emerges in the form of large electoral majorities.

    When there is not much common ground, not much gets done. As it should be.
     
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    There is no consensus because the Republican party of today bears little to no relation to the Republican party of yesterday, lest we forget a few gems---like Reagan proposing cap and trade and supporting a ban on assault weapons.

    and yeah---

    You can't make a consensus with a party that keeps on shifting to crazier depths. The Democrats have tried to respond by shifting in right in turn---hell, this Obama administration is the definition of looking for a compromise. But somewhere along the line, you need someone to meet you in the middle, something the modern Republican party seldom does.
     
  16. NotInMyHouse

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    Yep, understood and makes sense to a degree. I guess some part of me is hoping we can all start to find common ground soon. Frankly, I find it depressing that we can only come together in times of major tragedy, and even then shortly thereafter people are back at each other's throats.

    I guess when I was a kid I expected adults to behave like adults, but as a grown-up it seems like the majority of us behave as children. Maybe kids these days have better ideas than the adults in Washington DC.
     
  17. Commodore

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    Gridlock is a feature of our system, not a bug.

    Using force to impose your will on the populace is not supposed to be an easy thing to do.

    China has no problem "getting things done". It's why Thomas Friedman and Obama envy them so much.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/11/world/africa/11policy.html

     
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Dorner must be killed before 9PM Eastern so Obama can take credit.</p>&mdash; Dr. Marty Fox (@DrMartyFox) <a href="https://twitter.com/DrMartyFox/status/301490012942372864">February 13, 2013</a></blockquote>
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  20. Kojirou

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    Why will term limits spur Congressmen to get along with each other better?
     

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