Should Rockets pursue Wallace?

I think we should make a trade right now to get Sheed. Yao and SF is out of question. Dont want lose Motay and Cato either. That leaves Cat. I think portland is Cat kind of team, he will be happy there. For portland Cat for a expiring Sheed, not bad at all. Cat's got awesome contract.

 

I think we can afford to give up Cato or MoT to get him. I'm not sure which one I would rather give up but Cato would make more sense for Portland.

 

Me too. Wallace is the right guy for this team.

If he's traded before the deadline, though, it won't be to us. We can't offer anything near what other teams can. If Portland keeps him I think we have a damn good shot at signing him this summer.

 

I do think the Rockets should pursue Wallace. If we can move Mobley+Cato to get him then I am all for it. I think Wallace would thrive under JVG and Wallace would be a nice PF combo to Yao. With Yao, Wallace and Taylor we would have 3 legit post players to run our offense through. At all times we would have multiple post options available in the game.

If we can't trade for him now we should look into obtaining him in the offseason.

If Wallace indeed is excited about playing with Yao and Francis then perhaps that might give us a leg up in the offseason in trying to obtain him as a FA in a sign and trade or something.

 

It isn't out of the realm of possibility that we trade for Rasheed Wallace. But if we do, we will have to go through a third team to do it. And the trade would likely involve Mo and Cato.

For example, would Ilgauskas and/or Battie and/or Wagner to the Blazers be something the Blazers would want? Granted, the Blazers just swapped Miles and McInnis (a smart trade for Cleveland, by the way); but as far as Rasheed, Portland has to weigh many offers (so many, in fact, that they're willing to tell the media "we might keep Rasheed"; translation: sweeten your offers, everybody, this isn't a fire sale).

But if we get Rasheed, I want Stepania, too, as backup center. Would Cato/Mo/Pike to Cleveland, Ilgauskas/Wagner/Diop to Portland, Rasheed/Stepania to Houston do the trick?

And then there are impediments such as, Certain players can't be traded until such-and-so date etc etc.

 

Cat+Cato for Sheed, I think it's too expensive for us. Cat+Padgget+some cap filler maybe.

If sheed is playing for us, our under-size problem can be solved. Move JJ to 2 guard, Sheed plays 3. That's pretty good size and talent to match any team in the league. We have troubles playing Dallas, Memphis type of teams right now. With Sheed we are going to kill them.

 

Our best offer of Cat & Cato had most likely either been flat out rejected or possibly told "we'll keep it in mind". Either way the likely hood of Wallace coming here is minimal at best. We just don't have the players to offer. If we did I'll bet JVG would have pulled the trigger by now. The only players not going anywhere are SF and YM. JVG probably told Portland to put together and other combo of players they would like. Dallas offered AJ+ for Wallace. That right there is a better offer the we could put together short of Francis or Yao. The only possible way Wallace get here is if he tells lets it be know publicy that is Houston or bust. Then we have leverage. Cat, Nachbar, a #1, and the trade exception might then do the trick.

 

On the trade market Padgett is garbage. You are saying Cat for Wallace and that is not NEARLY enough for the Blazers (not even taking into account the contract matching).

I think Cat+Cato for Wallace still might not get it done. We may have to add a Nachbar to the list. (again not taking into account contract matching here)

I dont like the idea of Wallace at the 3. Perhaps at times it would be ok but his real value would be at the PF spot where he can post up and shot jumpers. I think his effectiveness is really taken away with major minutes at the 3 spot. It really saps his agressiveness when he takes a bunch of jump shots all game long instead of battling in the paint.

 

Boy I need the edit button!!!

 

well this works

Houston trades:
Mike Wilks
Scott Padgett
Adrian Griffin
Bostjan Nachbar
Jimmy Jackson
Eric Piatkowski
Kelvin Cato

Houston receives:
Rasheed Wallace

Portland would probably keep Cato and Jax but waive everyone else for us to sign them again.

 

Everybody keeps saying Dallas is gonna snatch him up before the trade deadline. Then he becomes a free agent.

At that time, we can look into him, but if he's asking for too much money, pass.

 

I think it would be foolish to trade for him now. Come offseason, we face two possible scenarios: (1) Have to pay Rasheed an enormous max-salary deal that he knows we can give him because we hold his Bird-rights; or (2) let him walk in free agency after giving up 2+ quality players to get him in the first place.

If we wait until the offseason, we can compete with other salary offers before we decide whether we want to trade the talent too; there is no chance we'll give up talent only to have Wallace walk away. We can possibly get him for a lower salary because his sign-and-trade money will be constrained by CBA trading rules (he likely will not be BYC because he already makes a ton of money). And, he'll be in Houston because he wants to be, not because that's the team Portland happened to give his Bird-rights to.

 

If the Rockets can solidify the PG and PF position and move Steve the 2, the Rockets will be good to go for many years to come.

 

This team is finally starting to form an identity in Houston because of guys like Mo, Cato, and Mobley. They seem to be well liked by their teamates and the fans. It would be a big mistake to send one of these good fellas away for a hard-headed fool like Wallace.

 

I thought one of the reasons why Rasheed wanted to come here was because he's good friends with mobley? So why would we give mobley up?
I think portland could really use Cato...plus his minutes have been decreasing over the last few games...With Mo doing great on offense, and slowly picking up defensively, i think he's showing us who really deserves the starting position.

 

It would be nice to have Wallace since he can nail those outside jumpers so the defense can't leave him wide open. Same thing goes for Mo Taylor.

 

Haven't we hammered this topic to death?

Sheed won't come here if Mobley isn't here. Period.

Can we use the trade exception in a deal to get him? If so, we'd have to include either Taylor or Cato and probably a pick to get it done.

I don't know if I would choose to ship off Mo or Cato simply because Cato is a good backup for Yao and Mo plays so well with Yao. CD/JVG have a tough decision if an offer comes across the table.

 

One of the biggest reasons he wants to come here is that Cat's here, so don't trade Cat. If we trade Cat we have less chance of signing him when he's a free agent.
But if the Rockets are able to get him without giving up Francis, Cat or Yao. I say go for it