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Saddam's Cubs

Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by rockHEAD, Aug 12, 2002.

  1. rockHEAD

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    Iraqi teens trade soccer for AK-47s

    By WAIEL FALEH
    Associated Press


    BAGHDAD, Iraq -- Thousands of boys in Iraq have swapped soccer practice and tennis lessons
    for light-weapons training and religion lessons as they prepare to defend Iraq, they say, from "our
    enemies."

    Firing pistols and AK-47s while studying Islam and history, 1,800 boys between the ages of 13
    and 16 are getting three weeks of training at "Saddam's Cubs Training Camp" in a southern
    Baghdad suburb, one of about 30 such camps scattered across the country.

    "We are sharp swords in the hand of President Saddam Hussein to be used to fight our
    enemies," 14-year-old Mustafa Amir said Sunday.

    "I am looking forward to finishing the course as soon as possible to be able to defend the
    country when it is attacked," said Amir, clad in khaki-colored fatigues, as he cleaned his gun.

    Amir and his fellow trainees rise early each morning for days filled with physical exercises,
    light-weapons training and religious and political classes.

    The training comes amid speculation that the United States is weighing options to wage war on
    Iraq. Washington accuses Saddam of producing and stockpiling weapons of mass destruction.

    The Iraqi government established "Saddam's Cubs" camps throughout the sanctions-strapped
    country in 1996, five years after the country was driven out of neighboring Kuwait in the Gulf War.

    The United Nations imposed sanctions on Iraq following the war. The sanctions can only be lifted
    once weapons inspectors verify that Iraq's non-conventional weapons program has been
    dismantled.

    Another young trainee, 15-year-old Sinan Abid Salman, said he had been worried about going
    to the camp but soon got used to its regimen.

    "I was scared in the beginning, but when I was acquainted with the people and the weapons, the
    days started to pass fast," Sinan said. "It is a pleasure to be trained to say that I am able to
    defend my family and country."

    Amir, meanwhile, said he liked the camp from day one and had joined to learn "to be able to
    fight like a man."

    "Most summers I go to clubs to play sports like tennis and soccer, but I am having as much fun in
    the camp as I do at the clubs," he said.
     
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  2. HOOP-T

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    SCARY!

    :rolleyes:

    Hell, I know how to fire a weapon, and have taken classes, but that doesn't mean I know how to fight in combat.
     
  3. Mango

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    rockHEAD,

    If you are going to do these types of posts, at least find the photo that goes with the article.

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    <A HREF="http://www.iraqdaily.com/p/3b/b8dbabb56e44.html">The underground world of Saddam</A>

    <i>Members of Saddam´s cubs, an Iraqi military youth group, train during a summer camp program in Baghdad 11 August 2002. SADDAM Hussein has likened himself to Winston Churchill and insisted that Iraq, like Britain facing Hitler, would never surrender. AFP photo
    </i>
     
  4. Supermac34

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    Hmmm...a little different than Boy Scouts.

    I think Hitler had some clubs like this too.
     
  5. boomboom

    boomboom I GOT '99 PROBLEMS

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    What good is learning to fire an AK-47 going to be when your enemy is two miles above you dropping laser guided smart bombs?
     
  6. rimbaud

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    Hitler Youth - they all got "cute" little knives with swastikas on them.
     
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    Wars are never won with smart bombs...and they aren't exactly cost-effective in dealing with troops.

    I just hope our government has a clue in what they hope to accomplish in Iraq. Given the populace, the best case scenario is a moderate democracy that doesn't support the radical Islamic factions?

    That kind of sounds like Pakistan. Unfortunately, they have problems dealing with the radicals as well. Life sucks, doesn't it?

    I guess I can't see the point in going to war with Iraq. None of these countries are going to change until their economies make it obvious to parents that their kid's lives, and their lives will be better by going to technical schools than religious schools.
     
  8. rockHEAD

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    could it be?

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    I ain't afraid of no Bush!

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  9. HOOP-T

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    The worst thing about this article is realizing that our troops may be fired upon by a teenager, not even old enough to drive in the States, and these youngsters, with their whole lives ahead of them, will die in combat.

    Think also of our troops that will fire back on these kids. How will their conscience weigh on them? Terrible.
     
  10. rockHEAD

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    from a distance they'll look like adults
     
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    I wonder if they have a "don't ask, don't tell" policy.
     
  12. Rocket River

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    spiffy uniforms.

    How many nations have MANDATORY military service?

    Is it more often than not?

    Rocket River
    just curious
     
  13. Baqui99

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    Switzerland
    Israel
    off the top of my head
     
  14. Ubiquitin

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    LMAO, good eye cokeHEAD, Slimer would be Colin Powell
     
  15. rockHEAD

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    Norway
     
  16. FranchiseBlade

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    I think Most Euproean countries have some type of mandatory military service. I know that Spain does.
     
  17. rockHEAD

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    uh.... Bush is cokehead, not me! Word!
     
  18. Ubiquitin

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    Well a rock head does do crack or coke, but in either case you're on the money with Bush.
     
  19. rockHEAD

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    uh... thanks.

    but in this case, the moniker came from the movie "Sid & Nancy" after a punk in the movie named, "rockhead"....

    from the movie...
    "C'mon rockhead, impress us with your drugs!"

    "The rockhead does not do drugs"

    I was going to use rockethead, but I think at the time, it was taken... regardless, I never have and never will do coke...
     
  20. Ottomaton

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    This was, appaerently, one of the big things that happened in Somalia. In most of the interviews with the troops that I've seen regarding this subject, they seem to have been pretty OK with it. I'd imagine that the fact that they could see the AK's pointed at them probably helped.

    If you shoot a child shooting at you, you at least have a sense that your survival directly depends on it. I'd imagine that it's sort of like when they break up those cockfights. You have to kill the chickens, even though you know that it's not their fault that they are the way that they are. Ultimately, I think it'd just deepen your resentment for the person who made them what they are, which in this case would be Saddam.

    Ultimately, however, this tells me that Saddam has been reading his Vietnam history books, looking for what demoralised the US troops there. Consistantly, one of the things that you see in the accounts of Vietnam was an uneasiness among the infantry because they could never distinguish between friendly civilians, and enemy soldiers.
     

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