I don't know. I'd like to see a cage match between Bin Laden and the anti-Christ on pay per view. Maybe we can throw Hussein and Arafat into the cage and make it a battle royal.
i say the people of iraqi and soldiers be allowed to cut his balls off. everyone cut little by little off and make him suffer.
I absolutely agree with you. The door swings both ways regardless of party affiliation. But keep in mind, right now it is the Republicans who are in power and it is the Democrats that are running the smear campaigns and I have no problem with anyone chastising some of these liberals on this message board who would try and put a negative spin on today's events or pretend that these events are meaningless. That's wrong and just because the republicans (who were also out of line) tried to impeach the dems' prize president does not open the door for this kind of behavior. A little mud slinging comes with the territory. Modern mudslinging aided by 24-hr news networks and the internet is out of control and is hurting the country.
Way to make a blanket statement about every person left of Dick Cheney. I am elated, overjoyed, that the US military caught this b*stard, this murderer, this tyrant. and so is the rest of America. Do I agree with the war? Does that really matter right now? Have you seen a single liberal come out and say "Why don't we just let him go"? Dude, seriously, that's weak.
So conservatives can be partisan as long as they say that W is the best thing since sliced bread, but if a lib says: "Wow. Hooray! God bless America and our troops! But it doesn't change the fact that W is a liar." That's not OK?
Not exactly, but I have to say what glynch and especially Sane said sounded pretty weird. It was mainly only these two, though, so I would agree that the brush was quite broad. Everyone should be happy now .
What better way to launch a country's democracy than to put its previous dictator on trial? To me, that's even better news than his capture. Great day.
Wow... take a look at what GreenVegan said in the othe thread: Liberals like myself and others LOVE America. I have friends and family in the military. I am very supportive of our troops. I don't agree with the President, but I don't despise even him. Just because one website said something doesn't mean they speak for others, especially those on this board. BTW, this won't affect Dean's campaign AT ALL. You need to think seriously about quitting your day job as T_J's shoe shine boy and think for yourself. Otherwise when I get that phone call that asks if I know any slow or special people, I'll have to say "Yes, yes I do."
You mean that you want to have an opinion contrary to country's mindset? Oh the isolation! Oh the shame!
Like you said, they want it to be a public trial. They will have TV cameras etc. "It's kind of ironic that Saddam was found in a small hole under a farmhouse practically right across the Tigres river from his Extravegant palaces he built with the Iraqi people's money." "people now see him as a coward. he hid like a little mouse in a hole. Haggard. "
The U.S. did NOT arm Iraq. This is a lie that the left has been passing around so long people just accept it without lookin up the facts. If the U.S. armed Iraq how come all the tanks we faced were Soviet, all the guns AK-47s and all the missiles Scuds? Where were the M-1s? The Bradleys? The Patriots? The largest supplier of weapons to Saddam's Iraq was the Soviet Union followed by (your favorite) Fance. The U.S. did supply Iraq with intelligence during the Iraq/Iran war as the powers that be felt that Iraq was less of a threat at the time than Iran but in no way did the U.S. ever consider Iraq "good" (and that includes Carter, Reagon, Bush and Clinton). The Iraqi Threat Factfile: Iraq's military capabilities Iraqi forces And the most detailed one... Iraqi Ground Forces Hey look! There are some transport helicopters from the U.S.!
after hearing about the great news this morning, I knew T_J's first post on the matter would be exactly like this. Pathetic and small-minded I can guarentee you that no liberal is regretting this day. Because we might express some reservation about how you neo-cons will try to use this capture to validate the war is not the same thing as not being happy about Saddam's capture. Bush told us Saddam would be removed because of WMD. period. His capture was only part of our mission in Iraq. IIRC, Saddamn never masterminded any terrorist attacks on US Soil. The guy that has directly attacked us is still on the lamb. While I am relieved, happy, and satisfied at Saddam's capture, it does nothing to change the fact that Bush lied to get us into War. It does nothing to change the fact that OBL is still out there and that the money and manpower being used in Iraq is taking away from Afghanistan and the true War that should be fought, the War on Terrorism. I am hopeful that Saddam's capture will lead to a reduced level of violence in Iraq, but I am doubting that will be an effect. The resistence to America's pressence in Iraq has little to nothing to do with Saddam. The violence will continue as long as the US military is ruling Iraq as an occupier.
Good post FM. I posted my initial thoughts over in D&D, but I should have read this thread first. Sorry for any redundancies.
From Time... ______________ TIME Exclusive: Notes from Saddam in Custody Saddam is talking, but he isn't cooperative. New details on his capture and his first interrogation By BRIAN BENNETT/BAGHDAD Saddam Hussein was captured on Sunday without a fight. But since then, according to a U.S. intelligence official in Iraq, the fallen dictator has been defiant. “He’s not been very cooperative,” said the official, who read the transcript of the initial interrogation report taken during the first questioning session. After his capture, Saddam was taken to a holding cell at the Baghdad Airport. He didn’t answer any of the initial questions directly, the official said, and at times seemed less than fully coherent. The transcript was full of “Saddam rhetoric type stuff,” said the official who paraphrased Saddam’s answers to some of the questions. When asked “How are you?” said the official, Saddam responded, “I am sad because my people are in bondage.” When offered a glass of water by his interrogators, Saddam replied, “If I drink water I will have to go to the bathroom and how can I use the bathroom when my people are in bondage?” The interrogators also asked Saddam if he knew about the location of Captain Scott Speicher, a U.S. pilot who went missing during the first Gulf War. “No,” replied the former Iraqi president, “we have never kept any prisoners. I have never known what happened.” Saddam was also asked whether Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction. “No, of course not,” he replied, according to the official, “the U.S. dreamed them up itself to have a reason to go to war with us.” The interrogator continued along this line, said the official, asking: “if you had no weapons of mass destruction then why not let the U.N. inspectors into your facilities?” Saddam’s reply: “We didn’t want them to go into the presidential areas and intrude on our privacy.” The official is doubtful that the U.S. will get a significant amount of intelligence from Saddam’s interrogations. “I would be surprised if he gave any info,” he said. Other high-ranking regime members, he said, have by and large remained mum. “Tariq Aziz [former deputy prime minister] hasn’t really spoken,” he said, “and Abid Mahmoud [Saddam’s former personal secretary] hasn’t really given any information.” The raid on the farm in al-Dawr, a village 15 miles from his hometown of Tikrit, initially came up empty, the official said. There was no Saddam Hussein in sight. Then one man on the property, apparently realizing the game was up, pointed out a bricked-in wall inside the basement of a small house on the property. Saddam is in there, he told the special forces operators from Task Force 121, who took down the farm with the aid of soldiers from the 1st Brigade of the Fourth Infantry Division. Saddam was bricked into his hiding place, he added. “They couldn’t get him out at first and had to dig, from either side of the hole,” said the official. The soldiers finally made a large enough passageway to drag him out. When he came out, he looked bedraggled, said the official: “He looked like a homeless man at the bus station.” Along with the $750,000 in cash, two AK 47 machine guns and pistol found with Saddam, the U.S. intelligence official confirmed that operatives found a briefcase with Saddam that contained a letter from a Baghdad resistance leader. Contained in the message, the official said, were the minutes from a meeting of a number of resistance leaders who came together in the capital. The official said the names found on this piece of paper will be valuable and could lead to the capture of insurgency leaders around the Sunni Triangle. The official said it may soon be clear how much command and control over the insurgency Saddam actually had while he was in hiding. “We can now determine,” he said, “if he is the mastermind of everything or not.” The official elaborated: “Have we actually cut the head of the snake or is he just an idiot hiding in a hole?”
Why would anyone bring up Osama bin Laden today? Our military successfully ends one of the largest manhunts in history and all the liberals can do is talk about the military's perceived failures with Osama? Why try to rain on the parade, liberals? It is truly not surprising. The liberals have been advancing their negative agenda and spreading the message of doom and gloom for a couple of years now. They want to see failure. They hate to see successes like today. Successes today don't give them new material for their angry tirades. Oh, they may tell you that the news is great, but in the very same post they will cite negative things like the resistance, Osama, illegal war, blah blah blah. It's clear that their agenda is to make things look as bad as possible. You see, this has become the new party platform for the Democrats: America Fails. This is what they are so eager to see! They would rather have the economy in a rut and see the terrorists win because it advances their campaign for the White House. Pathetic. How do I know this is true? Look at their outrage when they are called out for it. The truth hurts. While the liberals continue to nitpick and find fault, the rest of us will rejoice on this historic day.
Who is going to be the first to capitalize on this? Who wants to buy some "WE GOT HIM" bumper stickers, and t-shirts?
Give it a rest. Your paper-thin insight and hate-filled spiels sound like the droning of a fan.. you are not taken seriously by anybody. Ever.
