A friend of mine who is a big Kings fan brought up an interesting scenario at lunch today. This guy is from Houston but for some strange reason follows the Kings religiously. He visits their sites and message boards, etc. He mentioned that the Kings had inquired about Cuttino Mobley. The proposed deal was Doug Christie and Scot Pollard for Mobley and Walt. Of course the Rockets turned them down as Mobley is Rudy's favorite player and is untouchable. Christie was later resigned by the Kings. Anyways, hypothetically I think that I would consider this trade now that we've acquired Glen Rice. Objectively, we have to consider how good Mobley will get. Can he be the next Sprewell? Or will he continue to take ill-advised 3 pointers and play erratic. Doug Christie is an excellent perimeter defender with Shandon-like offensive abilities, while Pollard is exactly the kind of banger the Rockets need to complement Mo Taylor. Does this team have enough firepower? Yes. Can we afford to lose Mobley? Probably not. Could Christie and Pollard bring us over the top? Maybe. Pollard/Cato/Collier Taylor/Griffin/KT Rice/Morris/Langhi Christie Francis/Norris
What a horrible idea. The Rockets trade a young, dynamic SG and get Shandon Anderson with a slightly better shot in return. I really do like Doug Christie... but he's not getting any better. Mobley might just become a superstar. Rice is not a permanent replacement scorer. He'll be here 3 years... and then is gone. Pollard is a decent back-up center. Yipee. He's not a starter. I think that the team that gets the best player is usually getting the best part of the deal as well. In this case, that would easily be Sacramento.
Name me the last team to win a conference finals who fielded a SG who couldn't shoot: tough, isn't it Now, name me the teams with <b>hall-of-fame</b> SGs to win a conference finals: Kobe (2), Iverson (1), Reggie (1), Michael (6), Drexler (3), Dumars (2) Dumars even went a third time, but that was his 3rd season and he wasn't quite a playmaker yet...so I'm not including that.
Anyways, hypothetically I think that I would consider this trade now that we've acquired Glen Rice. I would NOT consider this trade not even in my dreams!!!!!!
No way, that would be a terrible trade. It is not only unfair to the Rockets, but Steve Francis would sulk for a year.
No. Us. 1994. Conference finals, NBA title. Vernon Maxwell was a terrible shooter who occassionally got hot. In fact he was a terrible shooter in the Finals. For that matter, John Starks meets your definition, too. Try again, SnapCracklePop.
I have but two words and you can find them in the Texas version of Websters dictionary...... Hell nah
Yeah but if it were not for Mad Max we would not even be in the finals. Remember the second half of game three in the Suns series in 94? That was all Mad Max.
Max was at one point one of my all-time favorite players. But just because he could light it up on occassion doesn't mean he was a good shooter! Virtually any player can shoot lights out when he gets hot. Did you know that Willie Burton once scored 53 points? Maxwell's contributions to this team, by and large, were more geared to defense and ballhandling and passing and gutsy play than his shooting skill (we had other guys for that job).
Are you kidding me: The Finals is full of pure shooters and playmakers. Aside from the hall-of-famers mentioned above, I didn't even mention Byron Scott Ainge Marjele Hawkins Hornachek Allan Houston and you're going to say MadMax and Starks (at 19ppg mind you) were not shooters. That is the best you can do? SG must score, as a rule. Christie is a liability even though he is an outstanding defender. You don't win by fielding defensive specialists at the Shooting Guard position.
If it was Webber and Peja, I would be sorry, but I'd buy Cat a 1-way ticket with Walt and Cato hidden in his luggage. If it was Christie and Webber for Cat and Cato (+ Walt?), then you have an interesting discussion. Or before the Rice trade if it was Christie and Peja, that also would at least be a little interesting. But Christie and Pollard for any trade that included Mobley is a bad and interesting joke.
Surely from your lower pavilion season ticket seats you can tell the difference between a shooter and a scorer? 19 points per game (I thought you hated stats!) tells you little about a guy's shooting skill. Glen Rice didn't become a poorer shooter last year by dropping down to 12 ppg. Are you going to tell me that Steve Kerr and BJ Armstrong were bad shooters because they didn't score alot? Does scoring 17 ppg make Larry Hughes a good shooter? Starks was a poor outside shooter who occassionally got hot. That is a fact. Ditto for Maxwell. Fact #2. You asked for one example. I gave you two. Now that's not good enough? I was just answering a question. I agree that trading Mobley is a stupid idea, but not for your "every shooting guard must fit into my little definition" reason.
I would need two things if this trade happened. A gun and a bullet. We would NEVER ever ever ever ever ever ever ever (Chris Tucker "Smokey" in Friday) do this trade. Lets see a Great player and a avg player for two avg players? NO FREAKIN WAY.
First of all, I think it would be pretty ludicrous for the Rockets to make a deal like that. Steve and Cat can be the best backcourt tandem in the NBA for many years! It would be incredibly stupid to break that up... not to mention we might risk losing Steve since Cat's his best friend. I think it's pretty lame that a lot of posters on this board get their panties all in a wad everytime someone disagrees with them. If everyone agreed w/ everything everyone else has said, there would be no reason to even have this message board... I think that a healthy debate is very fun and it's great to hear all the different opinions of people. Everyone needs to learn that it's ok to disagree, but it's crossing the line when people start personally attacking others because they don't agree w/ their viewpoint. Let's all grow up a little bit, please. Sorry to go off... just my 2 cents...
Pardon my last post about the personal attacks. I guess this particular thread may not have been the best place to post my call for maturity since the debate has been relatively good spirited. I guess my comments are more on a general level concerning the personal arguments that take place on this board.
