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Rudy T = HOFer?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Newgirl, Apr 22, 2003.

  1. Newgirl

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    I wonder about this:

    If Rudy's done today, would he be selected to the HOF?

    Has he won any COY honors? Is his resume of 2 rings and 1 Olympic gold medal enough?
     
  2. dskillz

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    I think he will be a 1st ballot HOFer. 2 rings, a gold medal, and a distingushed playing career will get him in. Plus, everyone seems to simply like Rudy. That goes along way in the ballotting. Other former Rockets I see going 1st ballot: Hakeem, Robert Horry, and Clyde.
     
  3. codell

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    Bob??? A HOFer???? You are kidding right? :eek:
     
  4. edc

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    Yes, he would be selected to the HOF.

    He should've gotten that recognition based on his college + pro playing career alone.

    No, he never won the "NBA Coach of the Year" award. In 1992-93 he came in second by one vote (the closest race in the history of the award). That same year he won the Sporting News Poll (voted on by the other coaches).
     
  5. dskillz

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    Why not? How many big shots has he hit? How many rings does he have that he actually contributed to get? I think by the criteria as a big time, big game player, he will get in.
     
  6. Nova

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    Of course RT would be a HOF... ;)

    But no way does Horry get in... :eek:
     
  7. Newgirl

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    Dskillz, I am talking about Rudy's chance as COACH. Playing career has nothing to do with being selected to the Hall as a coach otherwise Phil Jackson wouldn't be in.

    And yeah while I think Rudy has a wonderful playing career, I don't think he's good enough to be in the HOF as a player. But he could be in as a coach.

    Plus, Horry has no chance of making it. A role player (albeit an outstanding one) has no business being selected to the Hall.
     
  8. codell

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    Ill agree that looks good on a resume. But this doesn't:

    Career backup (with the exception of his 3 years in Houston)
    8.4 PPG
    5.4 RPG
    43% shooting

    This is why you don't see every member of the Celtics teams that won 11/13 NBA championships in the HOF. I am sure there are players that have more rings than Bob and better stats who arent in the HOF.

    No way Horry is a HOFer.
     
  9. dskillz

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    So you are saying, Parrish, a role player, deserves to be in the Hall and Horry doesn't?
     
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    Horry in the HOF? NO!
     
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    parish didnt have mark madsen starting in his place.
     
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    When going into the HOF ,they look at the playing and coaching career ,right?
     
  13. Newgirl

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    No, I think it's seperated. That's why Lenny Wilkins got in 2 times (1 time as a player and 1 time as a coach).
     
  14. codell

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    Parish was a much better player than Horry. You can't even compare the two.

    Parish played 20 years in the league. Horry will be lucky to be in the league another 2-4 years (if that).

    Parish averaged around 15 pts, 9 rebs and shot close to 53% during his career. Horry's stats don't compare.

    Parish is one of the all time leaders in games played. Parish scored over 20,000 points and had over 10,000 rebs for his career. Bob can't even sniff those stats.

    Also, Parish was at least a starter for most of his career. He was not a backup until his last few years in the league.
     
  15. edc

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    Incorrect. The basketball HOF is about an individual's entire contribution to the sport. It is pretty unique since college and pro playing careers are considered together. Similarly, coaching careers (pro or college) are not separated from playing careers. One segment may dominate, but it is the SUM that matters.
     
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    Of course Rudy is a hall of famer. He'll get in as a coach, but they look at his entire basketball career when voting.

    Remember, it's the BASKETBALL hall of fame, not the NBA hall of fame. People forget that he was one of the greatest players in Michigan history...
     
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    Have you seen Rudy's stats as a player , he was real good.
    i think he will get in as both then
     
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    If Rudy makes HOF then so should Greg Popovich.
     
  19. Newgirl

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    Parish's resume:
    - All-NBA Second Team (1982), All-NBA Third Team (1989)
    - 9-time All-Star (1981-1988, 1990-1992)
    - One of the 50 Greatest Players in NBA History (1996)
    - Member NBA Championship team (1981, 1984, 1986, 1997)
    - Ranked 13th in the NBA all-time list in scoring with 23,334 points, 6th in rebounds with 14,715, 6th in blocked shots with 2,361 and 8th in field goals made with 9,614

    Horry's achievement = Parish's? :rolleyes:
     
  20. verse

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    nba playing careers & college playing careers are often considered together. that's one of the major reasons calvin murphy is in the HOF.


    coaching careers are considered separately. as someone above me said, that's why lenny wilkins is in twice.


    as for robert horry...you've got to be kidding me. there's no way you put someone in the HOF that admittedly half-asses it for 82 games.
     

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