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  1. NewRoxFan

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    Gee... no wonder rudy rudy rudy is even more crankypants this week than usual... part of his Worst Week Ever tm continues...

     
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    When trump or rudy say such stupid things, do they really believe people believe it? So broken...

     
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    Dude is deranged, he is full blown maga...........he will go down in history as the traitor he is. What a joke
     
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    The NYT did a story on his fall. One of the things that really stood out for me from that story was that Trump refused to pay him for his legal work and that is one of the reasons why he's been facing so much financial trouble. Some highlights.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/15/...-trump-indictment.html?searchResultPosition=1
    From ‘America’s Mayor’ to Criminal Defendant: Giuliani’s Long Tumble
    An indictment in the Georgia election conspiracy case marked perhaps the lowest point in the career of Rudolph W. Giuliani, who had staked his legacy on blind allegiance to the Trump administration.

    Early in the scrum of the 2016 presidential campaign, the political strategist Rick Wilson bumped into an old boss and strongly advised him not to cast his lot with Donald J. Trump. No good would come of it.

    “Even if he wins, he’s going to destroy you,” Mr. Wilson remembered telling Rudolph W. Giuliani. “This guy’s going to humiliate you.”
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    “He’s going to take care of me,” Mr. Wilson said Mr. Giuliani would tell those around him. A cabinet post, probably. Maybe secretary of state.

    Never happened. Instead, Mr. Giuliani became Mr. Trump’s secretary of aggression and blind allegiance: his attack dog, legal adviser, unindicted co-conspirator — and now, co-defendant in a criminal conspiracy case.
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    Still, the criminal indictment of Mr. Giuliani, his first, marks the lowest point so far in his yearslong reputational tumble. Once heralded as a fearless lawman, game-changing New York City mayor and Sept. 11 hero, he is now defined by a subservience to the 45th president that sometimes veered into buffoonery.

    Daniel C. Richman, a former federal prosecutor who worked under Mr. Giuliani when he was the United States attorney in Manhattan, is among a legion of former colleagues who struggle to reconcile the Rudys of then and now.
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    “In his sad commitment to be relevant, he has thrown himself in with a crew where facts and the law are either irrelevant or there to be twisted,” Mr. Richman said. “It’s the thirst for relevance. The thirst to be in the mix.”

    Less than a decade after leaving City Hall amid international acclaim — he was Time magazine’s 2001 Person of the Year — Mr. Giuliani was a political also-ran. His inept and costly bid for the Republican presidential nomination in 2008 left the campaign about $3.6 million in debt and the candidate, as he later admitted, feeling intimations of irrelevance.

    This was an especially dark period for Mr. Giuliani, according to the journalist Andrew Kirtzman, whose 2022 book, “Giuliani: The Rise and Tragic Fall of America’s Mayor,” describes the former mayor as depressed, self-pitying and drinking to excess.

    But Mr. Trump came to his aid, Mr. Kirtzman wrote, providing Mr. Giuliani and his then wife, Judith Nathan, with several weeks of refuge in a secluded cottage at his Florida resort, Mar-a-Lago.

    Mr. Giuliani was able to return the favor, as well as return to the spotlight, several years later. During the 2016 presidential election season, he not only endorsed Mr. Trump — against the advice of the likes of Mr. Wilson — he became a defender so ferocious that some wondered about his mental well-being.

    Dealing with a divorce from his third wife and no longer holding a well-paying position at a prominent law firm, he thrust himself ever deeper into the chaotic Trumpian sphere.
    All the while, Mr. Giuliani’s pattern of curious legal interpretations, provocative statements and odd behavior kept him in an often unflattering spotlight.

    On Election Night 2020, with Mr. Trump’s chances fading by the hour, the president nevertheless declared victory, while also alleging electoral fraud, egged on by a conspiracy-focused Mr. Giuliani. Later, in testifying before the congressional commission investigating the Jan. 6 Capitol riot, Trump aides described Mr. Giuliani as having been highly intoxicated that night, a description he has rejected.

    Several days later, on Nov. 12, Mr. Trump’s election lawyers advised the president that they could find no evidence of election fraud, notwithstanding what he had been asserting publicly. But Mr. Giuliani prevailed again, this time by sharing the specious theory that Dominion voting machines had converted thousands of Trump votes into Biden votes, and by encouraging the president to file a lawsuit in Georgia.

    That night -— with the Capitol damaged and the nation traumatized — he continued to lobby members of Congress to block the certification of the election results, at one point leaving a voice mail message meant for Senator Tommy Tuberville, an Alabama Republican, with Senator Mike Lee, a Republican from Utah.

    Mr. Lee later texted Robert C. O’Brien, then the national security adviser, to say, in part: “You’ve got to listen to that message. Rudy is walking malpractice.”

    By positioning himself as Mr. Trump’s spearhead, Mr. Giuliani assured himself of the relevance he craved — but at irreversible cost to his legacy as an American of consequence in the late 20th and early 21st centuries.

    “We have considered in mitigation Mr. Giuliani’s conduct following the Sept. 11 attacks as well as his prior service in the Justice Department and as Mayor of New York City,” wrote the District of Columbia Bar’s board on professional responsibility. “But all of that happened long ago.

    “The misconduct here sadly transcends all his past accomplishments. It was unparalleled in its destructive purpose and effect. He sought to disrupt a presidential election and persists in his refusal to acknowledge the wrong he has done.”

    Mr. Giuliani, who has intimated to friends that he is nearly broke, also faces financial challenges, rooted at least in part in his fealty to Mr. Trump, who refused to pay him for his legal work. Finally, this year, Mr. Trump’s super PAC paid $340,000 to a vendor working on Mr. Giuliani’s behalf.
     
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    Why wont his bff pay for his legal bills.............he is such a snake, I would not rule out him flipping on trump, dude needs money and cant sustain this. I wonder if he will be at the big reveal next week when they release the kraken 2.0.............hope they called and booked the 4 seasons again
     
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    I don't feel sorry for fools who work for Trump. He has a long history of not paying his bills and screwing people over. He will do anything to get what he wants, illegal or not. He relies on everyone else's money to pay for his numerous legal bills so he can fly around in his Trump plane, live in a fancy resort, and tell the gullible schmucks he is doing it all for them and America.
     
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    His fellow mobsters know...

     
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    Karma is a b**** :D Oh Rudy, you're too far down the rabbit hole, I am afraid there is no coming back now, you will die a broke humiliated traitor who had a brief run after 9/11 then did a 180 and showed your TRUE colors..........................sorry, not sorry
     
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    With people like Giuliani while he might never have been President he probably could’ve had a good life writing books, doing speaking tours, being a policy advisor, senior partner of a firm etc.. History would’ve remembered him standing in the ruins of the WTC rallying Mew York.

    Instead he will be remembered for the Four Seasons lawn care, running hair dye, Borat’s daughter, and probably going to jail. I don’t see this as Karma but as hubris. His pride and desperation to remain relevant in political
    Circles is what brought him down.

    Lindsey Graham might suffer a similar fate too.
     
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    Agree. He caught the mob, but was ultimately destroyed by teaming up to with the snake in a suit.
     
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    Save a Lying Seditionist Fund

     
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    Welfare queen.
     
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    It's just kind of sad to see him soliciting CHECKS IN THE MAIL in the day and age of PayPal and GoFundMe. How many people under the age of 30 even have a checkbook anymore? He can't even solicit money to defend himself without looking hopelessly out of touch.

    But I guess maybe he's hitting just the right note with the "reverse mortgage" crowd and I'll have to eat my words.
     
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    There are so many folks crowd funding for lawyers to defend themselves in Fulton County...................sorry guys, that money is ear marked for the cult leader, ya`ll are on your own. At one point I felt a twinge of sorrow for rudy, but now, he`s just a shell of a man, he will die sad, broke and a traitor
     
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    There’s probably still people out there who remember him as “Americas Mayor” who will send him money. There are probably some who just want to pwn the Libs who will too.
     
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    What % will actually go to Rudy?

     
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    Imagine paying $100,000 to aid criminals like Trump and Rudy. Yes, I would guess Trump will take a big chunk of it or demand Rudy keeps his mouth shut about him. Trump doesn't do anything for anybody without expecting favors in return. Nothing! Rudy was an idiot to ever get involved with Trump to begin with. Rudy ruined his life for that power hungry con, and Trump could care less, as long as he is living it up at Mar a Lago, getting money from the Saudis, and getting dumb brainwashed fools to send him money and buy his stupid hats, flags, and other overpriced crap.
     
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    And you'll get a FREEEEE PILLOWWW

    Or not.
     
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