ROY..Who cares?

AMEN.

 

If nobody cares, at least Yao Ming Fans care

 

Thats what I have been sayin..
Like I said in another thread...
ROY dont put championship rings on the hand..

Yao Ming fans should care more about the wins if they want to emulate Yao, I can guarentee you he doesn't care about personal accolades...remember? He is a TEAM player...

 

I think it's the media hype machine working (e.g. look at ESPN's game recap). They billed the game as Yao vs Amare battle but really they play different positions, totally different players and cannot and should not be compared.

And they now talked about Amare being the hands-down ROY on TV and papers (in only the middle of season) every day, Houston fans (and other teams with good rookies) are of course pissed off.

 

At the start of the season everyone was laughing at Yao and the Rockets, saying what a bust of a pick he was. Now, they are hyping Stoudamire over yao for ROY. Bottom line, the Rox have a very good center in Yao, good enough to some day make it back to the finals, and as far as the NBA that is what matters most.

~ kountzer ~

 

to answer your question about ROYs and championship. I've looked that up before, and there is only two cases where a ROY won the title. The first was Tommy Heinsohn with the Celtics in Russell's first year, 1957. Russell didn't win ROY because he didn't join the team until around January.

The only other time was Jamaal Wilkes on Rick Barry's team who pulled a major upset by winning it all.

Magic won a title his first year, and the Finals MVP, but Bird won ROY and made it to the conference finals. Several ROYs have made it to the playoffs (about half the time in the 80s), just not too many in awhile (Duncan/Robinson are the last).

Twice a rookie has won MVP and ROY (Unseld/Chamberlain).

 

Don't worry 2 much about the ROY award, I think Yao Ming will get it!! It's still a long way before the NBA season ends with plenty of games left! Yao Ming will get his second wind soon! It's great that his NOT one dimensional....he can score, play D, alters opp. shots, pass well, block shots, great shooting touch from 15- 18 ft range, clog da middle, set up his team-mates, etc, etc.! A little fine tuning is all he needs & getting use 2 the long NBA schedule, it will some time & he knows that, he's a smart young man!! Remember, this kind of special CENTER doesn't grow on trees! By the way There are ALOT of tough power forwards in the NBA! The ROXS PFs seems 2 have a tough time with the other team's stud PF, example: K.G., T. Dunc, Karla M., J. O'Neil, Amare STUDmeir, Glen Robinson, E. Brand, C. WEB, Nene Hil, & list goes on!!

 

Agreed with this post.

ROY, who cares !!!

Especially since it will be Amare and not Yao.



DD

 

Well, the Bulls won six titles with a ROY on their team.

 

I really do not like Marbury and I'm so glad this guy is not associated with Houston. All he does is put down other players. Remember when Jason Williams made that behind the back elbow pass that everyone was aweing about......he blew it off and said he was doing that kinda stuff when he was a kid. He's talked bad about Garnett, Yao, and now Francis already this year. I hope he does not make Amare into someone like him.

Although I think Amare is legit, he's only a rookie and i'm starting to see cockiness in this kid. Confidence is one thing , but cockiness I can't tolerate. He doesn't realize that once teams start concentrating on him, he won't be able to do what he does cuz he can't shoot a jumper. He only got off yesterday when Rockets stopped palying defense on him. The guy's whole game is dunking offensively and he had a low shooting percentage thanks to the Rockets defense. When he tried to take it to the defense straight up he usually missed or was blocked. Most of his baskets occurred when the Rockets forgot to put a body on him. Teams just have to give him the outside shot until he develops one. I thought Cato played him pretty well.

 

Amen, A-Train. Who cares as long as Rox are winning. That was probably one of the best games I have seen this season. Yao still played big. He gave the inside presence that Suns can only salivate for.

 

Yao will not care about the ROY award, because he will have a ring within 3 years.

 

Yao doen't need the press or the ROY award to validate his value to this team. His impact is obvious on this team and that's translating to wins. Yao's not like Marbury, and I don't think he needs an individual award to satisfy his ego. Yea, we want him to get his props, but if Yao doesn't care, why should we? Let's keep on winning and do some damage in the playoffs with our ROY.

 

Wasn't Shaq the Rookie of the Year in 92/93 season?

Anyway I really enjoyed Yao Ming's game last night because he was more agressive and was able to get to the basket with a little brute strenght rather than finese (a step in the right direction). Although he did not finish off his moves well (preferably with a dunk - something HE WILL LEARN) it was pleasing to see that he "bulled" heis way to the bucket a few times. That is what is called playing big, and he is only 63% so far - more to come.

I still believe that Yao will win ROY when all is said and done and voters vote objectively. Also Yao will have a greater career IMO because he has the complete Arsenal. Amare is very quick and strong but it only took Eddie the first quarter to figure out that he onlyt likes to go right. When scouts pass it around he will be slowed down as well as the hype. He will have to add a jumper to his arsenal otherwise team will find a way to wrap him up easily.

Yao's rebounding is still suspect but I expect that to improve. He often tends to worry more about blocking out his man and he ends up only focusing his eyes on his man rather than using his big body to check his man while watching the flight of the ball (keeping your eyes on the Rock is the way to go as far as becoming a great rebounder is concerned).

ESPN bias was all over their Sportscenter highlights. Btw the way Amare DID NOT DUNK on Yao, Yao came from the weak side to help his man (Eddie) but he was too late for the cat quick Amare - Amare essentially dunked on the kid Eddie. So I hope we have gotten that straight. But the annoying part is that ESPN did not show Yao stuffing Amare (at least twice) and Starbury (once) and the fact that Amare kind of cooled down when our team figured him out after his huge first quarter. But oh well the did is done so we move on.

The ROY race is indeed about momentum and hype. Amare is leading right now on both fronts but it is only January. I hope as Amare is being praised because he is a high schooler that people don't forget that Yao has endured and huddled many odds, doubters and obstacles to get to this point. Which is harder to do? Doing what Yao Ming is doing now with all he has faced in the last 12 months or Amare's instant contribution barely months removed from his high school prom?

Check back in April. I smell a joint ROY award at worst.

 

I agree, who cares about the ROY. All I care about is getting to the playoffs and getting some experience. Stoudemire is putting up practically the same stats as Yao, and Yao hasn't had the chance to work with the team in the offseason, get a preseason and build up his body for the NBA like Stoudemire did. Yao has far more all-around skills then Stoudemire, Yao has the ability to make his teammates better because of his passing and ability to shut teams down on the defensive end. I'll take that any day of the week. Stoudemire is a stud, but Yao is a franchise player.

 

Orlando did not make it to the playoffs. The question was: When has a ROY made it to the playoffs in his rookie year?

Only Duncan and Robinson of done that since 1990, but it was done several times in all eras before that.

 

Just take a survey of who would you rather have on your team...I could see No team other than the Lakers saying ..Yao..!!

 

Seeing as Edit is down.. I will mention that I meant All teams in the league except the Lakers would choose Yao Ming!!