I'm not hating on Taylor, but I don't see why people think he will come back and make us forget about the 4 position. People will say what they want, but it doesn't matter what sytem you're in, you should be able to rebound the ball. Too short, slow, and fat are words to describe Barkley, yet he rebounded because of his desire. Last year Taylor did exactly what i thought he was going to do, come in overweight, shoot jumpers and not rebound. Something you don't want your 4 to do. I think what Jackson does is put the pressure on Cato and Taylor. Griffin will also put the pressure on Taylor. Whenever Taylor comes back, he will be slower than before and Jackson and Griffin will have picked up a year on him. He will not lose his job because of an injury, but he will not be handed it over because of his contract either. What i like about this is not only his perimeter game, but his inside game. I don't like the idea of just having him shoot jumpers most of the time. When we play shaq and some of the other teams, they will have to respect his inside game also. The Rockets will benefit just as much if Jackson is putting fouls on ther teams big men as much as him hit jumpers. Actually drawing fouls make it better for cat and stevie to penetrate more which is very scary. 14pts 8-9rebs is what to expect out of Jackson which is a little better than what Hakeem brought us. now we don't have to live by the jumper and die by the jumper. This team really got on a roll when Hakeem was avg 16-10 for that stretch remember? A good inside only make the perimeter evn better. Now i think we're better than phoe,minn, and port with this addition. Can't wait till Oct 30th
I don't believe this. b****, b****, b****, half the posts in this thread. I posted halfway through the season about an article in USA Today in which Marc Jackson actually stated he would love to play for the Rockets. The article mentioned how he rebounds with enthusiasm , even yelling out as he grabs the ball. We've addressed shot-blocking and rebounding, two of our most glaring problems from last year, and people complain. Another article from SI about Marcus Camby a couple years ago said that Van Gumby should quit complaining about what Camby doesn't bring as opposed to what he does. Let's do the same here. Marc Jackson isn't the saviour, but he wants to play here, and he gives us a post presence, and he works his ass off. I'll take hustle and enthusiasm any day. Let's get this g##damned season started!
LOL A couple of chat transcripts and an article that says he looks at game tape? EVERY PLAYER LOOKS AT GAME TAPE. Even Kelvin Cato! If Jackson is so damn good and had no baggage, GS would do whatever they can to keep him around. That means they'll match our offer and WE WON'T GET HIM. If they won't pay him what ammounts to the medical exception, that speaks volumes about him as a player and a person. Or is he magically a great player with no baggage now that he's on the Rocks?
Could it be that GS is already loaded at PF/C? If he was on any other team he would have been re-signed by now. Or maybe, just maybe GS plans to use Troy Murphy, and they feel Jackson is expendable? Think before you post. That might help you out a bit. And since when have the Warriors been such great evaluators of talent? GS's loss is our gain.
Well, I've been coming to this site for quite some time now, but finally decided to post. I'm a Rocket in Korea, and ex-UT alum...hook em! Anyway, I think signing jackson was the best thing CD could have done. He fits our need, and gives us much needed depth at the 4 & 5. Who knows? this might be the thing that motivates Cato. It's not like we mortgaged our entire future on the guy...it's basically a freebie since we're over the cap anyway. The Rockets management is showing a commitment to winning to both its players and the fans...and I'm excited. It's hard for me understand why people are so outraged by it... Love this site!
I, for one, am thrilled about this. This guy is a hard worker and will provide some much needed rebounding. The only thing lacking is shot blocking as he isn't exactly a world class high jump champion. However, he is twice as good as anyone we have (as far as big men ) or could have signed (unless you actually think we had a chance at siging the Admiral). For you guys who call him injury prone...he had a slight groin pull last season and missed some action...big friggin deal. Should we give up on Roy Oswalt too now? Hell, with the exception of Payton, Stockton or Malone...who doesn't miss games these days? There is no guarantee M Jax will be the answer but he's our only option and I think its a damn good option at that. Hell, we don't even own the title on the guy yet and people are b****in'. Finally, in a league where guys who average 12 minutes a night and 4 points a game are making 2.5 million a year or more, M Jax is to bargain what breasts are to Dolly Parton...HUGE
Before Mo went down, I believed Marc was one of a few FA post players that would fit in with the Rocks. Now, he is, IMO, the best available. He has ability, desire and now, opportunty. If he signs with the Rockets, he has a little luck working for him also. All that and a pair of new sneakers, gets him to the game. His effort will tip the scales, steal or bust. If he only plays as well as Mo, he is a steal. He can't be as big a bust as Cato has been. CD & Co. offered what they think it will take to get him. We can't argue that. Do the Rocks look better with him or without him? Duh! I hope CD pulls it off.
Band Geek -- Is Eddie Griffin not enough of a shot-blocker for you? This signing is a no-brainer. A steal. We just signed a 6'10" 270-lb. guy with skills, to a small contract. How could that ever be bad? So Golden State didn't want him, but the Rockets did. That could be the best case made yet for this signing.
This is a fascinating thread, but I fail to see how the Rockets could possibly be any worse off by signing Jackson. I think that it was really a no-brainer. And to think that we get him for Moochie-type money, you just can't go wrong. But, the real reason I am posting is to thank aelliot for the best reply ever. Man, that was a very intelligent post to put the "inflated rebounds" theory to rest.
Uhh, but that is a good thing... He will torch you if you DON'T pay attention to him. That is the whole point. We have other scorers on our team that will love the fact you may have to worry about Jax. Plus you fail to mention he was injured during those games. Also he is relatively new so perhaps the Rockets can bring something to the table and help him improve his game. Just my 2 cents.
Hey BTM, where's your link talking about Marc Jackson being a cancer and have weak work ethic? The reason the Warriors are keeping Dampier instead of Jackson is because Dampier's contract is unmovable. Contract wise, he is their Cato. And Fortson is a monster on the boards and Jamison is the franchise. And with so many guaranteed contracts they had to let Jackson go. There's no way to spin this, the guy had 7 rebounds per game. As a starter he averaged 10 rpg. People wanted Ben Wallace, Bo Outlaw even Jerome Williams to help on the glass. Now we have a guy who can rebound, and people are disregarding his rebounds! There are stats that can be misleading, but rebounds can't be, you have to be able to get to a rebound! The guy is a good rebounder. You don't grab 10 rebounds a game and be a bad rebounder. As for Fortson's rebounding only being good in Golden State, the guy averaged about 11 to 12 rpg in Denver, and did pretty good in Boston. And Jamison is playing SF, but he is really a PF. So to say Golden State inflates rebounding is inaccurate. These guys were rebounding before they got to Golden State. <b>hes mechanical in the post and scored his points either when people didnt expect anything out of him or simply because golden state were down 20 and they were giving him free baskets because the other mob stopped playing defense. after they paid him attention he sucked, you want to his shooting in his last 10 games? 3-10, 6-19, 3-14, 5-10, 8-17, 2-12, 5-9, 7-12, 2-15, 4-18 </b> I like how you only took stats from bad games. He shot 46.7% from the field and that is pretty good from a rookie. And how could he have scored his points while Golden State was down 20, HE STARTED many of those games! <b>yeah thats 33% shooting for a center, he cant do anything if you pay the slightest bit of attention to him </b> Give me a break, it could be they were paying attention, or it could be he was INJURED! <b>this signing is not on the same bad level as the todd mac and booth signings but its questionable whether you should give a 20 game wonder a large 6 year deal. im not saying he cant improve, but this signing has bust written all over it. you have to wonder why golden state, a team who has erick dampier at center(whos every bit as bad as cato) didnt want him back. they must have know something you didnt. about the character issues, it was in the new york papers, he was rumored to have a very strange off court life and a headcase, they said he kept a pack of pitbulls chained in the woods somewhere and didnt feed them. there were also other stories, i dont know if its true but a few papers reported he had off court problems. look at his whining even before he signed, i think this guy is a potential headcase ready to go off</b> He is more then a 20 game wondering. And the way you're talking about him you're saying he can't improve. Golden State kept Dampier because they couldn't move him. <b>they must have know something you didnt. about the character issues, it was in the new york papers, he was rumored to have a very strange off court life and a headcase, they said he kept a pack of pitbulls chained in the woods somewhere and didnt feed them. there were also other stories, i dont know if its true but a few papers reported he had off court problems. look at his whining even before he signed, i think this guy is a potential headcase ready to go off</b> You accuse the guy of something, you don't know it's true, yet you call him a potential headcase!? You yourself said that you didn't know it was true. But you want a potential headcase, talk about Kobe in a year or two.
Can you guys say "PLAYOFFS" I think Marc Jackson will help us a lot at center, and allow the Rockets easy acces to the playoffs.
Jackson was the best player available for the money, and I am excited now! Actually, I hope that Cato gets his act together and the Rockets move Marc over to PF. By the way, does anyone know about the Rockets pre-season games? Will they be televised?
I can't fUc$ing believe all you whiney b****es that are crying because we signed this guy!!!!!!!!!! We lose our scoring 4 who was weak in rebounding and pick up a nice replacement who can play the 4 or 5, can shoot AND rebound. What part of this don't you like? His contract is right in line with every other big man out there. Some of you guys just like to b**** just because!!!! Give me a freaking break!!! Jump on the bandwagon or get off and find another team you can b**** about!!!!
They will all be televised. Also, why are there some haters who now disagree with the fact that we have Marc Jackson now? Now you're saying that he has a poor work ethic and is a cancer to the team, GET REAL. How can a player play for Temple under Chaney and have a bad work ethic. If it's one thing I respect about Chaney is that he gets the most out of average players, which means they have excellent work ethics and everything they do is for the team. Just look at Eddie Jones and Aaron McKie. Those guys think defense first and work very hard every minute on the court and never complain. So just think, Marc Jackson comes from the same mold as these guys when it comes to work ethics and team ball. I think we should look at what Jackson brings to this team instead of what he's not.
Well done CD & RT!! Jackson will be at his best with players around him and with his athleticism. We are going to be one awesome team, Baby!!
I'm with Kidrock on this one. When Francis signs his extension, we will never be under the cap again. Even if we were, it is obvious that under the current CBA, top-tier free agency is dead. So who cares about how much we pay MJ? The only person that this should matter to is Les (unless you are a ticket holder and you think your ticket prices go up). I do not understand why so many people are trying to look out for Les' pocketbook. I was going through a Rockets depression when Mo got hurt. This signing has picked me up and made me excited again about the season. I think MJ is the perfect compliment to Cato, and he comes at a price over a million dollars per year cheaper than the league average.
You know BGM, the game is not played by taking turns shooting the ball. Looking at statistics and having MJ show up as 5th leading scorer on our team has absolutely zero to do with saying he is the 5th option or something. There is no such thing as a coach designing a team around divying up touches and saying..."Oh, this guy is my 5th option." There are playmakers and options. Coaches choose which playmaker to use, and the playmaker picks his options. Some plays have 2 options; some have 3; and some options are about resetting (rinse and repeat). In college, with a longer shot clock, sometimes there are no playmakers and each player has essentially the same options concerning what they should do (the Passing Game and the flex's). What a shooting big man does is allows you more options for your playmakers....the pick and roll, for instance. He can be used to force defenses to make decisions that take pressure off your playmakers. You use guys like Jackson to get the damn double teams off of our boys. I can definitely agree with you that a defending center has its advantages, but just make that point. Just say this team gets an overall sum gain with a defensive center rather than MJ. Don't try to say that a center with a shot is useless just because we already have 4 scorers.
