I was thinking of another dork but couldn't think of his name but your exactly right, my BAD, but he was on the enemy team
so, how many of these coaching firings in the league are going to make the team better. this is just stupidity, or it is about money (like Silas). Many owners just don't believe any coaches are worth big contracts. That's why upstart will still get fired as they try to get their payday for success. The real stupidity will be anyone who gives Larry Brown control of the whole team, imo. Brown is great, but he's too flakey and old to be given full control like Washington is talking about. And that type of thing seems to be done because of money, too. The owner can't justify $8m for a coach while he has a president and GM, so he consolidates the salaries into one. Has there ever successful story where one man did all the jobs? I don't know. codell, my feeling is that Rudy will be coaching if he's truly healthy. The speculative idea that Detroit wants him is pretty intriguing.
This is starting to piss me off. Next the Lakers fire Phil Jackson so that THEY can pursue Larry Brown.
For any of you that still doubt the talents of Larry Brown, you only have to look at what the Pistons are doing this morning. With that said, I couldn't think of a coach in all of sports that has done a better coaching job the last two seasons than Rick Carlisle. He should have received his second coach of the year this season. As great as Brown is, I don't tamper with what Rick was building in Detroit. So what does this mean for the Rockets? Well, this is the first job opening that I would label as equally attractive if not more attractive than the Rockets job. Houston better speed things up here. Forget the slow coach choosing process now. You are in a bidding war now and Detroit and Washington are doing a better job of using the media than Houston is right now. If the Rockets don't get Brown, I would at least like to think they tried. And yes, Carlisle is defintely #2 on my wish list for the Rockets now. Why not #1? Because Brown has done what Carlisle did for his first time in Detroit 4 times.
All those no-jumpin white boys look the same! Speaking of "can Moochie dunk?", I do remember it being reported back in the 80s that Sichting was the only player in the NBA at that time that could not dunk.
Deuce, Who doubts the talents of Brown? People who are losing interest in Brown given the unprecedented pool of coaches available, don't doubt his talent, we doubt his character to quit on 6 teams in his life, we doubt his trade maneuvers in Philly, and we suspect he wants total control. imo, Brown loses the job if he doesn't declare that CD is his boss. And he might not. That seems to becoming the bidding war you speak of. Brown might want total control. I'm not bidding that high given his questionable ego. As for what Detroit is doing, this doesn't make sense as a reason to toss your hate in for Brown. This smells of contract squabbles like Silas as pretty much the main reason. You don't fire Carlisle for mree hopes of getting "top prize," that's foolish. Oh, and my money would be on Detroit calling Rudy, anyhow. Praise Carlisle all you want guys, but that was one boring-ass, ugly-ball offense. Was it because it was the best choice for the team, or does he like that offense like Riley and Van Gundy do? Do you want to be the team to find out?
The Detroit job is better than ours. Detroit plays in the East. Detroit made the Eastern Conference Finals. Detroit has the #2 pick and a chance to get Darko who is supposedly absolutely amazing. This is getting very interesting.
I agree, I have to say Houston and Detrot are the two top choices. I think the Cavs job would be horrible. LeBron James is not going to make you win over night. I still think HOuston is the top job though.
RIET, I like Darko, too...but you'd take Darko (a 17yr old) over Anthony. <b>bball trival time:</b> when is the last time a freshman led his team to the NCAA championship? Now, name all the sophmores who have been the leader of champions. Have any of them become nothing less than a Hall of Famer? Does history show that there is something hugely intangible about college yungins who rip that trophy down out of the gate?
For what it's worth since Carlilse han't been fired yet, Rudy told everyone who asked at a golf tournament at Wildcat this week that "he was going to take a year off to be with his family". An illness can make one reflective about what's really important in life and it's not working another 18 hour day. If he could stay in Houston, get paid to do a little scouting in some exotic European locales and some PR work, like glad-handing prospective luxury box buyers, I've got to believe he will. Keeping your stress level down is a very important factor in chemo therapy (Doc?). Relax and smell the roses Rudy, you've earned it.
I would because 7 footers who can score and bang are very hard to find and supposedly Darko can do both. Darko is the perfect complement to Ben Wallace and that duo can become a serious force.
For what its worth, Rick Bucher of ESPN The Magazine is convinced that Brown will take over the Detroit job. He asserted that there's no way Carlisle gets fired unless there's some assurance that they'll get Brown. It's probably mere speculation.
The last frosh to lead his team to the NCAA championship? Pervis Ellison. Remember his NBA career? To illustrate how bizarre this firing was, here's an interview published YESTERDAY in the Detroit Newspapers: Talking with ... Joe Dumars, Pistons President By Bob Wojnowski / The Detroit News Dumars Comment on this story Send this story to a friend Get Home Delivery Q. There has been a lot of speculation regarding Coach Rick Carlisle. How do you assess his growth this season? A: What we all tend to forget, it's Rick's second year as a coach. It's not like he's a 15-year veteran who has seen it all. So a lot of it is new for him. I commend him on stepping in and making the adjustments and doing whatever it takes. I felt Rick got into the playoffs and was willing to do whatever it took to get the win. That's all you want from a coach -- do whatever it takes to get the win, and we'll worry about feelings that are hurt tomorrow. I think Rick did a great job with that. Q: You expect to have him back, right? A: I would hope so. The guy's won 50 games two years in a row and we've advanced a little farther. I don't see any problems with that. Q: There has been a lot of conjecture. Do you fully support your coach? A: You say a lot of conjecture, but none of it has come from me. That has no bearing on what's going to happen with Rick Carlisle. As far as hanging a guy out to dry, we're not even into the third season yet. I support my coach. Q: You don't see any reason why he wouldn't come back? A: None whatsoever. It's amazing, somebody said there was (a rumor) on an Internet (chat room). Come on, man, that cheapens what you guys (media) are doing. If I've got to start responding to (that) ... I don't even want to respond to that. Q: When a coach has one year left, players are aware of that. Couldn't they take advantage of that? A: Of course that could happen. It's happened before. And it's also happened where the coach had a huge year and now he has all the leverage in the world. I don't foresee any problems. I expect Rick Carlisle to be back as head coach. Q: Are you anticipating a younger roster next season? A: That could very well happen. This much you can be sure of -- we're gonna draft a teenager. ... Tayshaun Prince, Mehmet Okur, Chauncey Billups and Rip Hamilton (are young). Ben Wallace is 28. That's half your team under 28. Q: The goal remains to take another step toward a championship? A: Obviously, that's the goal. We certainly don't want to take any steps backward. You get this far, you can't start looking back. You can't. You taste it, you want to get back. Q: How much will players' performances in the playoffs determine whether they will be back next season? A: It'll have some effect, but not a final effect. I have to look at what guys did over the long haul. The playoffs will weigh into it, but I have to look at it from a wide range, not six games here or there. Q: Do you think the offense needs to be re-tooled? A: I'm not sure how much it has to be re-tooled. I leave that to Rick, how he wants to re-tool, or if he wants to re-tool. It's unfair to Rick for me to say.
It was a boring-ass, ugly-ball offense because he didn't have any weapons. It's obvious he didn't want to run that, if you notice in the playoffs that Carlisle tried to open up the offense but didn't have the weapons to do it. I mean really, when is an offense that is focused around Billups, Wallace, Hamilton, Prince and Barry EVER pretty. Yet he put together a strong enough offensive scheme to win. And he knew the offense would be horrible, so he focused on defense.
RIET, I agreed with that 100% until Anthony won the title. Anthony is pretty tall, too. The absolutes of 7'ers is true, and so is the absolutes of 6'8 studs who can play the 2. Darko is still pretty young talent we are talking about. There's two other historical (almost) absolutes: (1) Europe is not known for producing banging NBA PFs (this will be a first, imo), (2) NCAA frosh/soph team leaders with rings almost always make the HOF. where's codell when you need him. What is the NBA results of fresh/soph stars who took titles. Thomas, Magic, Bibby, Walton, (can we count Jordan as the leader of Perkins' team??), Lew Alcindor. How many more have there been?
