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Reasons for poor rebounding?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by shortfuse3, Nov 8, 2008.

  1. shortfuse3

    shortfuse3 Member

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    it seems like the rockets really need a rebounder right now, someone who can grab boards all day. i thought Landry could be that guy but he's too small to jump over taller PF's. why exactly is our rebounding so bad? i think it's because Yao isn't a good rebounder and our PF's are undersized. we're missing Mutombo really bad right now.
     
  2. DaDakota

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    Mutombo hardly played last year...until late in the year,.......and we rebounded fine.

    The reason we are not rebounding well is because Yao is coming off of injury and is still rounding into form.

    Tmac is also coming off of injury and is not jumping like he was.

    And the team's chemistry is off due to the insertion of Ron, AB and Barry into the rotation.

    Give them time, they will get it sorted out.

    DD
     
  3. redao

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    The effort (or the stamina?) is not there.
     
  4. Ziggy

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    It looks like I see us in some zone defense. Which puts us out of rebounding position. I don't think you can blame this on injury, regardless of who is hurt if JVG was coaching this team we would still be at the top of the league in defensive rebounding. I am not taking a jab at Adelman or anything, just saying...

    On the bright side the 93-95 Rockets were among the leagues worst in rebounding. Ranked in the mid 20's I think. We got by until Seattle forced our hand.
     
  5. joesr

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    Yao isn't aggressive enough. Thats something that China bball implemented into him and I really doubt that part will change.

    On top of that height isn't usually the factor but as more of more height and energy. Usually Yao has to out rebound 2 tall guys because our PFs cant always handle the taller guy they have to guard. So instead of Yao just having to post up one guy its 2 guys. (so whoever is crying about rebounds ytd against the Clippers needs to stfu). Portland also had multiple 6'11'' guys and a 7 footer. Yao has the height true but he doesn't have the energy to post against 2 other talls and this is showing a great weakness in our PF's.

    What the Rockets and Yao need is for us cluthfans to believe in them instead of speaking crazy thoughts on this sites as in trade or f that guy. Yao might be a sensitive guy anyway, hah.
     
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    It isn't because Yao is a poor rebounder and our PFs are undersized. We have the same bigs from last year when Mutombo was hardly in the rotation and they were doing fine.

    It's attention to detail. They are behind the play a lot and that is putting them at a disadvantage when it comes to rebounds. I really wish the coach would get into them about going back to fundamentals.
     
  7. edkk323

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    NOT!

    The problem is that no one try to box out!

    Other teams always get the short rebound. That is a killer.

    Yao can not jump lately for some reason.
     
  8. smasstastic

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    It's not only Yao who is causing our rebounding problem. It's funny that this problem is exactly the one I get when I play with the Rockets in video games:

    Yao comes over to block the shot of a driver or deep poster and is unable to get the rebound. Our PF's are then bullied away from the boards and we lose the rebound.

    We need our PF's to do rebounding and boxing out drills. That, I believe, will cure this temporary problem.
     
  9. durvasa

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    Offensive rebounding is way down -- not really sure why. It might be the types of shots we're getting. Maybe the energy is just not where it was a year ago. The whole offense just seems really sluggish.

    Defensive rebounding has dropped as well, and we struggle most there when Yao isn't in the game. A rebounding big with size would help there. But does he slow down the rest of the second unit offensively if he's a big stiff? Perhaps that's the concern there.
     
  10. jacuzzi

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    Who do you think is a good rebounder? Ben Wallace? Camby?
    Our rebound was fine last year. This year the only major difference is that we have Ron replacing Battier. He is said to be stronger and more aggressive, but why the worse difference than last year?
     
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    People often scoff at the idea, but Battier does do certain things on the court that can elevate the play of his teammates. He's actually been a better offensive rebounder than Artest throughout his career -- he's good at tapping the ball out to a teammate on the perimeter. On defense, Battier isn't a prolific rebounder, but he'll box out guys to give his teammates a better shot at securing the board.
     
  12. getRED2008

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    any1, most of C has better reboundin skillz than yao. now yao jumps lower than ever, thats teh reason. hes neverh be a good rebounder and now even worse. rebound is teh basic job for a C, u can suck on shottin but u cant lose all teh rebounds. i still remeber teh rebound yao missed 2 yrs ago against teh jazz.
     
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    Exactly. The problem is not the rebounding itself, but BOXING OUT.

    Yao does get taken out of position by having to come over and stop penetration of players who are getting by our guys (cough...Artest going for too many steals..cough), but that is no excuse for him just looking up and standing around the rim whenever the shot goes up. Yao needs to feel around for someone to put his butt on and BOX THAT GUY OUT.

    THIS is why the team so desperately needs Shane Battier to get healthy and return to the lineup. He is excellent at boxing out his man, preferring to let his teammates collect the rebound and ensuring that his man doesn't. I bet the Rockets' rebounding numbers are better when Battier's in the game.

    Things like boxing out and getting back in transition don't show up in the box score, but they are the things that help win games. People around here would rather look at a box score and see "rebounds" and "steals" and then judge players by those numbers. THIS is why Battier should be starting, with Artest coming off the bench. We need guys to do those little things while T-Mac and Yao are in the game.
     
  14. jacuzzi

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    That's exactly what I thought. His absense costs us way too much. Without him, Yao gets exposed easily. I think Ron's defense is more obvious, spoken by the stat and his muscle, but Shane, by our wins.
     
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    We're simply not playing tough enough. We're getting pushed around in the paint. For one game, I just want to see how Joey Dorsey could change that.
     
  16. jacuzzi

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    You are being unreasonable again. You severely degrade Yao. I agree he is not an excellent rebounder, but he is by no means a bad rebounder. Have you read the posts above discussing why Yao didn't do well in rebounding?

    I have one suggestion for you. Don't be radical just because you wanna be radical. That'll cost you your ego.
     
  17. getRED2008

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    cmon man, nothin personal, im not being radical on yao and no1 would since we all kno hes a nice guy. but teh fact is yao just cant hold teh damn ball, sometimes yes he got ball but he would lose it in a sec! . how many times u see that happened? his rebounding skillz rly sux man MILLIONS OF! just dont be fooled by stats, if u ever watched yao's game, u shouldve agreed that.
     
  18. durvasa

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    I really, really hope you're not Ron Artest.
     
  19. jacuzzi

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    Interesting!
     
  20. getRED2008

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    ROFLMFAO, post of teh day haha
     

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