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Racism still alive?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by ABrooks0, Aug 11, 2010.

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  1. Northside Storm

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    We could all use this once in a while.

    A Muslim (Arabic: مسلم‎; /ˈmʊslɨm/ MOOS-lim or English pronunciation: /ˈmʌzlɨm/ MUZ-lim) or Moslem[1] is an adherent of the religion of Islam regardless of ethnicity.

    The ethnic group (or really, the collection of ethnic groups) you are most likely thinking of is the following-

    Arab people (Arabic: عربي‎, ʿarabi) or Arabs (العرب al-ʿarab) are a panethnicity of peoples of various ancestral origins, religious backgrounds and historic identities, whose members, on an individual basis, identify as such on one or more of linguistic, cultural, political, or genealogical grounds.

    Might as well add that these are not the same as-

    The Persian people are defined by the use of the Persian language as their mother tongue. However, the term Persian has also a supra-ethnic significance and has been historically referred to a part of Iranian peoples. The origin of the Persian people is traced to the ancient Indo-Iranians, who arrived in parts of Greater Iran circa 2000-1500 BCE.

    Finally, note that-

    The Jews (Hebrew: יְהוּדִים‎ "Yehudim" IPA: jɛhuːdiːm), also known as the Jewish people, are a nation and ethnoreligious group originating from the Israelites or Hebrews of the Ancient Near East. The Jewish ethnicity, nationality, and religion are strongly interrelated, as Judaism is the traditional faith of the Jewish nation.[6][7][8] Converts to Judaism, whose status as Jews within the Jewish ethnos is equal to those born into it, have been absorbed into the Jewish people throughout the millennia.
     
  2. ubigred

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    Alive as freddy , jason, and the halloween guy.....no matter how/when you try to kill it/them, it/they just keep coming back.

    Racism is not apart of America, its in our DNA.
     
  3. saintcougar

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    No DM, it's not cool to belittle people's faith. That's what pisses me off about someone who acknowlegdes themself as a Christian and that they read the bible, and then they are ripped and looked at as some kind of freak b/c they read the scriptures that this nation was built upon. As much as no one in the msm wants to say it, this is a christian nation based upon christian values. It's as if all of a sudden, a devout christian is considered a right wing nut. Because they believe in Christ? Because they are inherently a conservative if they are religous? As much as I have had my battle with religion, just because you believe in god and you may talk to god on a daily basis doesn't mean you're a nut, although one can be very much portrayed that way.
     
  4. saintcougar

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    In other words, that is egoism. Is it so hard to believe that people have a relationship with this imaginery entity, a being that so many find hope in and others find empty promises? IMHO, a relationship with god can be made no matter who you are and what sham religion you're from. Wasn't it Christ who said you don't need a temple or an organization to worship God, god is all around you. Therefore, proclaimed muslims and all of their bs means nothing to me, as they have distinguished themselves as superior to the other "races" and that it is ok to lie to the infidel. Really, it's ok to lie to people as long as you consider them less than you? I have absolutely no love for an arrogant race who inherently believes they are better than you.
     
  5. shastarocket

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    Wtf...source?
     
  6. saintcougar

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    Al-taqiyya
     
  7. shastarocket

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    no, i want YOUR source
     
  8. saintcougar

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    Koran
     
  9. Tom Bombadillo

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    "We are all atheists about most of the gods that societies have ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further."
     
  10. shastarocket

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    FIFY... :rolleyes:
     
  11. saintcougar

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    Are you standing up for the innocent muslims who just want to practice their religion of peace and are staunch patriots and protectors of the american way of life. I have known so many muslims, none ever loved America, in fact they hate America and everything it stands for. Name a prominent self proclaimed muslim who loves america...
     
  12. shastarocket

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    There is no use arguing with you.

    Your mere presence in this thread is ripping a hole in the time-space continuum.
     
  13. Tom Bombadillo

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    1. No, but it is absolutely necessary to question it, just as some would question fairies or flying teapots. The onus is on you to back it up, because there is zero supporting evidence...

    2. Let us talk about values...

    "However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)"
    "When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)"
    "If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years. Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom. If he was single when he became your slave and then married afterward, only he will go free in the seventh year. But if he was married before he became a slave, then his wife will be freed with him. If his master gave him a wife while he was a slave, and they had sons or daughters, then the man will be free in the seventh year, but his wife and children will still belong to his master. But the slave may plainly declare, 'I love my master, my wife, and my children. I would rather not go free.' If he does this, his master must present him before God. Then his master must take him to the door and publicly pierce his ear with an awl. After that, the slave will belong to his master forever. (Exodus 21:2-6 NLT)"

    3. Christian values? There is no such thing... They are human values, and they can be found everywhere. Fables and Mythology...

    John Adams "The Government of the United States is in no sense founded on the Christian religion."
    Benjamin Franklin "The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason: The Morning Daylight appears plainer when you put out your Candle."
    Thomas Jefferson "I have examined all the known superstitions of the world, and I do not find in our particular superstition of Christianity one redeeming feature. They are all alike founded on fables and mythology"
    James Madison "During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What have been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the Clergy, ignorance and servility in the laity, in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution."

    4."As much as I have had my battle with religion, just because you believe in god and you may talk to god on a daily basis doesn't mean you're a nut, although one can be very much portrayed that way."
    "When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called Religion."

    Robert M. Pirsig
     
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    What have I done to make you think there is no way we can have an argument of muslims in America? I make a couple of comments and that's it?
     
  15. Tom Bombadillo

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    So, the fact of evolution, and our common ancestry with great apes, really messes up that Adam and Eve stuff.
     
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    What are you trying to prove, you can take bible verses and portray the person who reads the scripture as a savage?
     
  17. saintcougar

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    Are you implying that none of our founding fathers were Christian, because they poke at the very thing that has corrupted governments prior to the U.S.? Of course the government is not based on religous beliefs, then we would have been no better than Spain during the Crusades. To take a quote and label it to portray an atheist view is completely false, these men were Christians.
     
  18. Tom Bombadillo

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    So from your standpoint, they were Christians, yet they "poked at" Christianity, and "did not base the government on" Christianity...

    Yet, earlier you write...

    "scriptures that this nation was built upon"


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    "this is a christian nation based upon christian values"

    Oh, and way to cherry pick bub.

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/26611/so...mormon-72yearold-presidential-candidates.aspx

    "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus."

    Thomas Jefferson
     
  19. saintcougar

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    I'm not cherry picking one single thing. What you said makes absolutely no sense. You obviously equate the country's beginnings with a couple of quotes from the founding fathers. What you're saying essentially is because the government does not reference that we are directly built upon Christianity, that therefore it does not exist, and not one of our forefathers was a Christian? If anything, you are the one who's cherrypicking comments from another website and skewing them to fit your obvious atheist view. Everybody you quoted in your post was a Christian, the communities that started this country revolved around the church.
     
  20. saintcougar

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    And you reference a gallup poll for those who would vote for a mormon because you're an atheist in Utah?
     

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