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Race Question

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by pirc1, Sep 10, 2007.

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  1. danny317

    danny317 Member

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    BLASIAN!!!

    j/k...

    seriously though, hed be shunned as an outsider or even a "mongrel". but things are beginning to change. as asian countries are being exposed more and more to western culture, people are beginning to accept people of mixed races. the older generation of people still dont accept people of mixed races but the younger generations do. i think eventually, race will lose relevance.
     
  2. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    yes, especially when it comes to highly accomplished "blacks" they must be something else.

    edit: it doesn't matter where the logic came from it has been embraced. race is just as much culture as it is biology. in this country, if you're part black you're black. at least you've always been accepted in the black community as black.

    the only thing that needs to be changed is the shunning of blacks, whether they be 100 50 or 25%
     
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  3. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    It's interesting that this is only brought up when it comes to highly accomplished blacks like Tiger Woods. It's like white people want to have a "race draft" like on the Chappelle Show. If Tiger is fine being considered black because that's what he identifies with, then that is what we should call him.

    But that doesn't make it any more right to use logic that originated from white slave owners. Bottom line is that logic doesnt make any sense.

    edit for your above edit: If the black community embraces him even if he is only part black, that is great. I just dont think we should label someone something they may not see themselves as.
     
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    Yes. Mr clutch is right. Tiger of course can choose to say he is African Americans, that is his choice. But why should there be a rule in the US that automtically classify mixed race kids as only one race?
     
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    I think the population of the Asians is lower than other two, then people follow the majority.

     
  7. pirc1

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    Really?

    Aisan in the Us is the minority race that is definately treated as less of a minority race than African Americans or Latinos. Asians are often treated as a sub White class that often ignored by everyone, they do not qualify for many of the minority benefits but are discriminated against by many Whites.
     
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    How many Jewish people are in the US? Anyone dare to treat them any less?
     
  9. Master Baiter

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    How are Asians discriminated by whites?
     
  10. The Real Shady

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    The Asians are just bitter over losing Tiger Woods in the Racial Draft.
     
  11. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    you guys are really analyzing this too hard and it just goes to show you that people american or not really don't understand the complexity of race relations, specifically the black experience in this country. I say you are analyzing too hard but don't understand the complexity. I realize that is an oxymoron, but really because of the history of this country is why the situation is the way it is.

    if you need a start, read the article that bobrek posted. it just goes to show the extent of the disdain of blacks in the past and it will go to show you why I say its born out of a negative. then after reading, realize that blacks in this country have really embraced these negatives and try to turn them into to positives.

    like when blacks form their own fraternities might be a good example. and to now say that it should be different is really an insult to blacks, especially ones who lived through the extreme negativity.

    are their issues between blacks of mixed decent and more "pure blood", whatever that means, blacks, sure. but to black people, we're all black because we were forced to accept and now it is our culture, but not only ours this entire country's.
     
  12. glad_ken

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    Wentworth Miller's father is black and his mother is white, but most people see him as a white man. According to those old Jim Crow rules, he would be considered black.

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  13. JuanValdez

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    I think a lot of nowadays is self-identification. Tiger Woods talks about himself as a mixed person, so people think of him that way. It seems like Obama talks about himself as a black person, so people think of him that way.

    My wife considers herself mixed. She has had black people offended by that. She's had black people tell her to call herself black because everyone else will see her as black. It's not true though. Most people see her as mixed, because that's what she calls herself. She has a brother who calls himself black, possibly because he has more people telling him he is black (I still see him as mixed though, because of his sister).

    I think if Obama's campaign stressed his maternal heritage more, it would change the public perception of him. But, it might do bad things to his electability -- or at least that must be what his campaign manager has concluded.
     
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    The purpose of this statement is to explain my heritage for the benefit of members of the media who may be seeing me play for the first time. It is the final and only comment I will make regarding the issue.

    My parents have taught me to always be proud of my ethnic background. Please rest assured that is, and always will be, the case - past, present, and future.

    The media has portrayed me as African-America; sometimes, Asian. In fact, I am both.

    Yes, I am the product of two great cultures, one African-American and the other Asian.

    On my father's side, I am African-American. On my mother's side, I am Thai. Truthfully, I feel very fortunate, and EQUALLY PROUD, to be both African-American and Asian!

    The critical and fundamental point is that ethnic background and/or composition should NOT make a difference. It does NOT make a difference to me. The bottom line is that I am an American...and proud of it!

    That is who I am and what I am. Now, with your cooperation, I hope I can just be a golfer and a human being.

    Signed,

    TIGER WOODS

    http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/2396/tigerrace.html
     
  15. rhino17

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    Dont you know that all white people are racist against every minority?
     
  16. AkeemTheDreem86

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    He's half African American, half Thai. I don't see the question/problem here.
     
  17. Rocket River

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    Ask Fuzzy Zeoller

    Rocket River
     
  18. MrRolo

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    I just knew he was a brotha!!!


    Can't really add anything to this post from what's already been said but in the USA it doesn't matter what you think are or what you really are, skin color is all the cop, judge, jury, security gaurd, secretary, HR recruiter, manager, shoe salesmen, or car salesmen will ever see. So if your skin isn't white/yellow or light brown, you a brotha!!!!

    "Tiger my cousin I can say som'n."
     
  19. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Sometimes a person will say ni hao ma while standing behind them on a subway. When you thin about it, could there really be a worse form of discrimination than that. ;)
     
  20. Lil Pun

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    Well speaking as a biracial man (my father is black/my mother is white) I don't think anybody has any set definition I really think it is up to the person. I have always heard the government does but I have not seen any evidence. Some people have mentioned that past laws used to enforce if you have any then you are all but those types of rules are gone, I believe.

    The reason I put African-American on applications, forms, etc. is because that is the group that I eventually identified with and that was the group that was more accepting of me. Does that make sense?
     

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