geez... How come everytime I see one of these 'what if we traded _____ for _____' threads, the poster doesn't really even care if the trade benefits the other team? After all, you need two teams to consent to a trade to make it work... "Lets trade Cato for Garnett and Posey for McGrady!"
am i seeing this right? we're trading: Posey - a long 6-8, energetic, versatile (G-F) defensive specialist, who averaged 14/6, and was a leader and go-to-guy for his team the last two years. for Parker - a short, one-dimensional point guard, who averages less in every statistical category than Francis, who doesn't play a lick of defense? the dude has the twin towers in the post, and still average less assists than francis. while Posey may be a poor man's version of scottie pippen (god forbid!), the fact of the matter is we ain't got anyone else like him. on the other hand, i count three point guards on our squad alone Francis, Moochie, and Maddox who's probably better than Parker given the chance. bunch of spur trolls messing with your minds people. the Spurs are gonna be a one-man show after this year. don't let the veneer of success make these second-rate players out to be more than they really are...
Lil, Posey a poor man's Pippen??? That's like saying Matt Maloney is a poor man's Stockton. There was a reason why Denver sucked and Posey was never a goto guy. They had Nick the Quick and LaFrentz and then they had Howard. They also had this guy name McDyess who I heard was pretty good.
Riet - you're a riot! I love your sense of humor! Parker Posey, the Queen of Indy Films - I'll take her "b****iness" over Posey's defense any day... Re: Parker and S.F. in the backcourt... Can you say "Zone"? Sure, I knew you could. With our bevvy of shot blockers, and the speed of our guards (and a lanky, "hungry" Nachbar next season) maybe we could make up for the lack of size. Unfortunately, I don't think we will be able to get Parker at all. I agree that even if the Spurs get Kidd, they keep Parker as their Ace in the hole. And I do expect them to get Kidd!! The way the Nets played here last Saturday, after going to the finals last year...NO WAY DOES KIDD RESIGN IN N.J. Rox need to get Jon Barry, Brent Barry, or both!
If open- court players are a dime a dozen then how come the Rockets have no one else? I bet he can hit an open 20 footer, as long as it isn't a bad pass from Steve or Cuttino with the shot clock running down and someone in his face so that he is fading away. He is also the best guy to feed the ball to Yao, because he is long and and can see the whole floor (unlike Cuttino or Steve).
He's a better teammate than Shandn, better D, better O, better future. And you better believe he'll get 5mil to start a 5 year deal next summer.
I think ya'll are forgetting that Parker's trade value has increased since that new Nike commercial where he's playing one-on-one with Kidd.
Well of course Mobley's more expensive than Parker. Parker has a rookie contract; Mobley could have gotten a lot more money in Toronto. Look Spers fans, if SA lands Kidd (which they won't), who the hell will care if Parker is traded. He'd be playing behind the best point in the L. Posey would be more of an asset to that team. But in the meanwhile, keep your little French creampuff. He's not the second coming of Mike like people make him out to be. Yeah, he's fast. Yeah, he can shoot. But he's not an All-Star. No.
Parker is a nice guy and just need more time and experience. He will be an all-star 5 years later or more.
Let's just be calm and rehash it 5 yrs from now. We'll see who would have the last laugh on this matter, the Spurs or the Rox, Okay ! Both team have a great future, and should be able to give their respective fans the feeling of Joy and proud into their heart IMHO Oh, on Posey for Parker trade I must say ROTFLMAO
Tierre Brown is a nice guy. He's very quick. He's a solid shooter. Yet somehow he's ballin it up in the NBDL right now. Tony Parker an All-Star? I'll believe it when I see it.
I'm glad you're not CD because I don't see Posey getting more than a Moochie contract which I think is still too much.
I don't think that was a poor analogy... just take a quick look at the numbers, take into account that Posey was just a 3rd year player on a crappy team with no other scoring options, and i think the two (Pippen and Posey) are pretty comparable... Scottie Pippen 6-8 G-F (01-02) 32.2 min/g, .411 fg%, .305 3p%, 5.2reb, 5.9ast, 1.63stl, .56blk, 2.76to, 10.6ppg James Posey 6-8 G-F (01-02) 30.7 min/g, .376 fg%, .283 3p%, 5.9reb, 2.5ast, 1.56stl, .53blk, 1.74to, 10.7ppg Except that Pippen makes a whole lot more money, making Posey a "poor man's Pippen" in every sense of the word... But regardless, there is simply no way that CD'll trade Posey for Parker simply cuz it wouldn't make sense for either team. It would end up making both weaker.
Every Sper with the exception of TD is overrated, though I'll be the first to admit TD is underrated. Spers fans don't seem to realize with a potential 1st round exit versus the Lakers looming and a frustrated TD possibly bolting via FA all of sudden they will see all the complete crap around TD that really exits. The thread that holds the Spers together and keeps them from joining the Cavs and Nuggets is a lot more thin and fickle than they care to admit. Mobley would be a great player for the Spurs. Another scoring option like him would make them a ton more dangerous. Luckly, we have no reason to trade Mobley to them, and we have Mobley at a very reasonable contract. If I were the Spurs my #1 goal would be finding the legit 2 guard this offseason they havn't had since the DA trade. Stackhouse seems one of the few options available, luckily Detriot has a team option on Hamilton, I don't think there are too many other big name 2 guards out there. Or they could try a Kidd or Payton and Parker back-court experiment, but it will be an experiment.
Desert Scar after reading your brilliant analysis of the Spurs talent I realized why our record is only 32-30 and the talent laden Rockets are a stellar 44-18. Oh wait a minute. It's the other way around isn't it.
Brilliant, stupendous post, oh wait a 2nd, I forgot you actually have TD on your team. Wait a second, that was my whole argument--that TD makes crapola around him look adequate. What was the Spurs record the year before Duncan arrived? That is what I thought.. Sure was genius of those Spurs brass in securing that #1 pick and taking Duncan with it. You are pretty cocky for a guy whose whole team (e.g., Duncan) is a free agent this offseason and who is staring headlong into a first round exit versus the Lakers right now. I guess the latter can explain why you are a little edgy--I'll try to show more sympathy next time.
Desert Scar help me out. We're trying to figure out who we should get next year to go with our only player Duncan. Some want G O'Neal and some want Kidd. Both seem interested. Which one do you think the Spurs should take?
