Why do people suggest RIDICULOUS trades that WON'T happen then don't even reply to their own thread once people comment in them? Why in the hell would the Suns give up Penny, a great roleplayer and former MVP candidate, for trash from a rival team? Just 'because'? In fact why are, 'Would you do this trade' even a topic? NONE of the trade suggestions I've seen in over 2 years I"ve been here have been close to realistic because of biased thread makers or their lack of salary cap understanding. Why make them? Do people feel smart or contributive(is that even a word?)for explaining completely fictional situations? I just don't get it. I say we ban these stupid trade threads or make a separate forum for wannabe GMs that have no knowledge of the NBA as a business.
Rice is worse than Penny in terms of production per dollar. But his contract is shorter. (And both have a reputation of being a whiner.) But why would the Suns want to help Houston by picking up Moochie's dribbling and fat contract? They like his hair?
Why the hell wouldn't the Suns want to trade for a roleplayer and former all-star for overpaid trash to a rival team? Phoenix has been trying to get rid of Hardaway for years because while he may be a "great" roleplayer, he's paid like a franchise player. Yeah, with the emergence of Amare, I'm sure we could get googs for "cheap" too. Let's go after him. But why would they want to give up a good roleplayer who used to be the Tpups mvp.
He is what he is: a roleplayer. He can push the ball, play d, run the offense, and doesn't need a whole lot of shots to be effective, things mooch couldn't lay claim to. If the rox are serious about moving Steve to the sg, Kenny would be the best pg we could realistically get in fagency with the exception. And you can whine and b**** about his numbers all you want, but he accepted his role in Boston to be the pg they needed to get Walker and Pierce their touches. He went and played for the Sonics and did a good job there. I didn't get to see his stint in NO, so I can't really comment on that. Bottom line, other than height, he is the kind of pg people on the board have been craving to pair with francis, with no real cost for the team to acquire.
No trading Cato. He is almost untouchable not only because he's improved his output but for contract reasons.
Hardaway was a big reason the Suns made the playoffs, he still provides a lot of playmaking and good shooting for them. Are you putting googs and penny in the same category? Googs has a decent shot and nothing else...he'd be worse than glen rice with all the injuries and horrible D. Hell, Penny started a lot of games for the Suns, would you trade penny to get the great moochie norris and an old glen rice? Why would you want your team to get worse while helping the one team that might knock you out of next year's playoffs? For some reason I'm not understanding your logic.
If I was the suns I would trade him to get rid of his contract, but not take on Mooch's(and not to a rival, like many in this thread have said). Penny wouldn't have started any games if Joe Johnson could have showed some consistancy in his absence. But no doubt Penny is an albatross. Baker put up decent #s when he was in Seattle but was still a pos. And I brought up the past accolades of Rice and Googs to emphasize that what Penny accomplished in the past was just that, the past.
They made the playoffs like this last yr with a rookie 4 in the west. Why in the world do they not think they can't do it again?Obviously, you are thinking that the Suns would want anyone on our team other than Ming. They don't want any of our soft frontline players, plus what benefit does mo taylor have to that team? That have Googs who should be fully recovered and once he comes off the books, they'l have flexibility for Amare. I don't know where you're coming from.
You're right, Penny Hardaway was the difference in the Suns making the playoffs and I would do the Cato and Mobes for Penny trade in a heartbeat. He added a whole other diminsion that team and freed Marbury up to score a lot more. Penny is a selfless player and he can handle the ball when we need Steve to score. At least we know Penny might actually pass it.
Why would Phoenix do this deal with Houston though? I think the Rocket have a better chance at getting Rasheed than getting Penny. I'm still pushing for SAR though.
I don't think Phoenix would do the deal, I'm just saying I would from a Rockets' perspective. Phoenix doesn't need Cato or Mobley, they have the perfect compliments for Marbury in place.
Chill, man... even if everyone did know which trades are realistic and which ones aren't it's still fun to think of trade scenarios that would help the team. It's part of teh fun in sports. Not every one of them has to be plausilbe.
