If you don't like mellow slow stuff, there is still a lot of Led Zeppelin that isn't mellow. Some that are really good and not mellow are: Archilles Last Stand Dazed and Confused Trampled Underfoot Houses of the Holy Black Dog Good Times, Bad Times The first three are a must have if you liked Kashmir and Stairway to Heaven, those are Led Zeppelin's best.
More like the knowledge of rock is dead. The crap this guy is saying is "old" is rediculous. I don't care if someone likes recent stuff, because I like some of it myself, and if someone simply doesn't care for the music that forms the basis for today's rock, that's cool, because I don't have to hang around the guy, but please spare us the "LP is dead" line. What is dead is curiosity, and a knowledge of the roots of what we have today, if this chump is any sort of example. Guys got together and formed bands. They wrote music together and put them in collections, know as record albums or the LP. What you have when that's done is a segment, or part the arc, if you will, of a band's career, reflected by the music put together at that time. Take one or two songs out of that collection, and you very well may miss a large part of the artistic statement the group or individual was attempting to make. You may even miss the main point of what they were trying to say with their music. And I don't think that artistic effort in music is dead. I think some brains are dead, perhaps, but not the LP as an artistic statement of rock by a group at a given point in time.
So a guy starts a thread wanting to learn about more music, asks nicely for others' opinions, doesn't insult anyone. He maybe mis-categorizes some things innocently and lists some things faux-music critics of the forum don't approve of; and because of that he has no "knowledge of rock" and is a "chump"? Way to keep it civil!
Musical snobs, UNITE!! Not sure if you want albums or not, but I'm going to list a few of my favorites because every track is good. I'm sure this will come as no surprise to people here who know me here, but: The Police Outlandos d'Amour (Roxanne, So Lonely, Can't Stand Losing You) Reggatta De Blanc (Message in a Bottle, Walking on the Moon) Zenyatta Mondatta (Don't Stand So Close to Me, De Do Do Do De Da Da Da, When The World is Running Down) Ghost In The Machine (Spirits in the Material World, Every Little Thing She Does) Rush 2112 (side one) Permanent Waves (Spirit of Radio, Freewill, Jacobs Ladder) Moving Pictures (Tom Sawyer, Red Barchetta, YYZ, Limelight) Exit...Stage Left (best live album ever) Signals (Subdivisions, New World Man)
The music industry used to be singles driven, so instead of "The LP is dead", perhaps you could say there is a rebirth of the 45.
Yes. Yes they do. In fact, I think Deckard should jam this tune right now and chill out on all of his glory days crap!
Hating on post drug addiction Aerosmith is almost cliche now. Permanent Vacation, Pump, and Get a Grip all kicked ass...
With all respect, nah brah. Aerosmith is the cliche, not the hate. If it makes you feel better, they sucked on drugs, too!
some of you may be into my new record blog.. today's record review is of a record by Blues Creation, an early 70's Japanese hard rock band that sounded like Sabbath/Deep Purple. http://freelancefiend.wordpress.com
Freak, you're right. It was uncalled for. I had a hell of a day yesterday, and was in a foul mood when I read this thread. I still think his knowledge of rock is appalling, but that is why (I suppose) he started the thread. In the parlance of today, my bad. As for what Jeff said, whenever music comes up as a topic, we seem to either disagree immediately, or talk past each other, not understanding the other's point(s). Having said that, I don't think the "LP" is dead, and someone might kid around about "my glory days," but how can I address that? You would have had to be there to understand. That's impossible, for people younger than a certain age. I was lucky enough to have been caught up in a musical revolution that so much of today's music feeds off of. Some still appreciate that music, even if they weren't there. One of the main things I like to get across, when the topic comes up, is that the groups playing back then, many now considered obscure, were far better live than the recordings still floating around. In that respect, I was lucky. I certainly won't apologize for that.
I was just joshin', of course. I collect old vinyl records, and I'm fairly young at 27. Classic stuff, the music that really moves people, never goes away. I can appreciate that a lot of middle-aged duders around here have a lot of great memories and feelings associated with the "musical revolution" that you speak of. Must have been a great time to experience. But you have to understand, we're in the early stages of a musical revolution right now! It might make one wistful that kids aren't buying a bunch of LPs anymore, but think of it this way: the middle men are disappearing! The record labels, radio, music videos, and retail giants, all of whom are responsible for the dreck you probably hate, are dying. Nobody really knows what's going to take their place! Point is, people will no longer be spoonfed musical crap by the machine, as least not nearly as efficiently. Radio and MTV will no longer be paid by record labels to dictate what music is heard. Think of it this way: You get to live through not one musical revolution, but two! Only difference is, you ain't a kid anymore. And guys? The Police ARE old rock. Sorry. Synchronicity came out 25 years ago.
My Ages: Rock and Roll... Chuck, Buddy, Jerry Lee, Elvis, etc. Beatles Era: Beatles, Stones, Who, Hendrix, etc. Bicentennial Era: Springsteen, Top, Aerosmith, VH, etc. Post Disco: Police, REM, U2, Stevie, etc. Everything Since: Nirvana and individual songs I like.
I knew you were kidding around, but I was serious about the "LP" not being dead. Yes, we are going to a kind of music revolution today, although it is more about the distribution than the music, in my opinion. Having said that, when a group gets together, writes some songs, and "puts it out there," isn't that essentially an LP? An album? A record? Isn't it still a segment of the arc of their career, a statement of their art at that point in time? And if you just listen to one of their songs, aren't you missing a great deal of what they are attempting to say with their music? Perhaps even the main point? I don't see the difference, from a music point of view.
