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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by blackbird, Jan 21, 2008.

  1. bbjai

    bbjai Member

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    but aren't you saying all they do is sign offensors?

    they aren't even doing that?
     
  2. choujie

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    You make me laugh. You got it backwards if you truly believe what coaches/gms are thinking.

    So many coaches/profesionals said this on TV:
    <b>DEFENSE WINS CHAMIONSHIPS</b>
     
  3. blackbird

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    If they have toooo many offensers, they need to sign some defenders. It depends. They know that defense is important too.

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  4. Blake

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    guys/girls, blackbird is obviously some kid horsing around trying to anger people by creating threads, voicing opinions, then backing those opinions up with other opinions.

    it's clearly a joke. it just has to be
     
  5. blackbird

    blackbird Member

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    Are you smoking?

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  6. choujie

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    That's just an advice to you unless you really want to keep embarassing yourself .
     
  7. bbjai

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    their last "offensor" they signed was Steve Nash since then they got

    Boris Diaw (wasn't a noted offensive player then)
    Raja Bell (noted stopper)
    Kurt Thomas (noted post defender)
    Brian Skinner ( Signed for post defence against people like Yao)

    they let go:

    Joe Johnson (definetly a offensor)
    Q rich (3 point gunner)
    James Jones (3 pt Gunner)

    i think i see a trend here to be honest
    that they are trying to be more defensive..........not offensive........
    and this is a sample space of over 4 seasons.........
     
  8. Blake

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    nope. answer my posts on the previous page.
     
  9. blackbird

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    If you don't like my post, it is unnecessary for you to read it.

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  10. Blake

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    don't start threads if you don't want people to debate with you
     
  11. blackbird

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    Suns' offense is good enough, and they do need more defense. Everyone knows it.

    I'm not talking about the trend. I'm talking the current ration of offensers to defenders in the whole NBA.

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  12. blackbird

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    You know that I did try my best to answer your questions.

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  13. bbjai

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    OK
    im looking at the ratio on the current Phoneix team and it is

    amare
    nash
    Grant Hill


    vs

    Marion
    Bell
    Skinner

    um personally I don't think that ratio is all that different to ours and many other teams like San Antonio

    Ginobilli
    Parker

    vs

    Duncan
    Bowen
    oberto

    or even the rockets

    T-mac
    Yao
    Rafer

    vs

    Battier
    Hayes
     
  14. blackbird

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    Would you please give me the ratio of the whole NBA?

    Also, Duncan and Marion can play very very good offense.

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  15. phil1414

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    Could YOU give us the ratio of the whole NBA. This was your thread and theory yet you have provided no evidence outside of your personal opinions. When you said most coaches/GMs are following the D'Antoni's model of building a team, you were asked to list the other teams/coaches/GMs. You have not provided any empirical evidence or even a convincing rationale for your theory.

    If you don't want people debating your "theory" or disproving you then stay off the forum and keep it in your diary instead.
     
  16. blackbird

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    I do like debate, and I did my best to reply most questions. But I don't like bash, someone just keep bashing me. I do remember you, and do you really think that I need answer your post #44?

    As for the ratio, I don't have the exact number, and I don't think anyone has the exact number. But you must understand, if you disagree with my statement, it is fine, and I'm glad to debate. If you want to bash me and say that my statement is crappy, it is your job to prove that you are right and I am wrong. If you can't prove that you are right, it means you are just a crappy basher. Is it clear?

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  17. phil1414

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    I think that was what I did in my first post...


    but you responded with this...

    I gave some points to prove you wrong and you did not provide a single rebuttal. So for your most compelling argument for your point is that GMs/Coaches are hiring more offensive players than defensive players which you have no provided a single piece of evidence for. If you consider me saying that as 'bashing' than what should I say instead. I haven't bashed you at all in any of my posts; I have bashed your theory but thats because you haven't provided a single piece of evidence or a really convincing argument to anyone posting.
     
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    Just to start off...

    Shooters (Offensers):
    1.JJ Redick
    2.Steve Novak
    3.Jason Kapono
    4.Wa.lly Z
    5.Antoine Walker (Even if he sucks)
    6.Willie Green
    7.Gerald Green
    8.Daniel Gibson
    9.James Jones
    10.Juan Carlos Navarro
    11.Matt Carroll
    12.Andrea Bargnani
    13.Luther Head
    14.Leandro Barbosa
    15.Larry Hughes
    16.Jose Juan Barea
    17.Charlie Bell
    18.Peja Stojokavic
    19.Eddy Curry
    20.Quentin Richardson
    21.Kyle Korver
    22.DeShawn Stevenson
    23.Grant Hill
    24.Chris Quinn
    25.Juan Dixon
    26.Daequan Cook
    27.Tony Allen
    28.Steven Hunter
    29.Stromile Swift

    Defensive-players:
    1.Shane Battier
    2.Chuck Hayes
    3.Bruce Bowen
    4.Ben Wallace
    5.Marcus Camby
    6.Thabo Sefolosha
    7.Adrian Griffin
    8.Fabricio Oberto
    9.Samuel Dalembert
    10.Raja Bell
    11.Brian Skinner
    12.Ron Artest
    13.Dorrell Wright
    14.Renaldo Balkman
    15.Ryan Bowen
    16.Francisco Elson
    17.Imke Udoka
    18.Kurt Thomas
    19.Anthony Parker
    20.Paul Millsap
    21.Andre Kirelinko
    22.Brendan Haywood
    23.Andres Nocioni
    24.Emeka Okafor
    25.Andrew Bogut
    26.Theo Ratliff
    27.Dikembe Mutombo
    28.Jamario Moon
    29.Mikael Pietrus
    30.Tyson Chandler
     
  19. blackbird

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    I don't like the attitude in your first post #44. And I do consider it as "bashing". If you don't think so, just ask someone else to confirm it.

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  20. bbjai

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    but you don't respond with evidence?
    There is a huge list of offensors vs defensors above your post.

    Mind making a comment on that post?
    You really have no evidence everytime you say something.
     

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