I think it raises concerns that will be addressed (that's why finance is still in committee). I also think this will be a work in progress. Projections show Obama could leave office in 8 years and programs will still be just starting to be implemented.(how'd you like that sentence structure?) Lots of work, but the current system has failed and will continue to fail. Doing nothing is not an option. So it goes into the fall. people are working.
Space Ghost, if you read any of my posts, I am not blithely advocating the current bill. I am advocating changing the system, I am making suggestions (e.g. Wyden's approach, for one), and supporting those (miniscule few) that acknowledge that the issue should transcend some petty party politics to whatever extent possible. Just saying "no change" is my least favorite position. It's so so easy to negate everything as a political strategy, and that's largely why we're in such a mess.
space ghost is right in a way... In a way, it will be sort of a leap of faith on this whole idea. But there's lots of smart people trying their best to figure it all out.
Southern Select Please read the board rules before posting unattributed, direct copies of material from other sites. Yes, this includes www.stuffwhitepeoplelike.com.
Agreed. More importantly, I am willing to try new things since the current system is an utter wreck. More more importantly, I tend to place more favor towards those trying to fix it, instead of those who only appear interested in opposing the efforts without sensible rationale, alternatives, or complaint. Indeed, opposing merely for the sake of opposing - and, shamefully, bolstering this attitude with deceitful claims or outright lies.
White people love rules. It explains why so they get upset when people cut in line, why they tip so religiously and why they become lawyers.
I think white people like efficiency , long lives and saving money, but not being white myself, I really don't have a f****** clue.
My only hypothetical objection is the proposed >$1MM income tax surcharge, which I think is only in the House bill. Perhaps they could just put an extra tax on fast food and junk food, and partially divert any existing taxes on tobacco and liquor. Seems like it would generate a decent chunk of revenue, evenly spread among more of the people who would more likely utilize public health care. ...Okay, so, fast food and candy industries generate only about $200 - $300 billion annually, so unless we can tax them at 45 or 50%, and, um, buy ten times as much, nevermind. Maybe we could tax all non-athletic leisure activities and products that the uninsured couldn't afford if they had to buy coverage. I dunno.
This is exactly what really sucks. Our choices are to put our lives in the hands of money grubbing companies or money grubbing bureaucrats. We are hosed.
What is it about the wingnuts on this board that makes them think plagiarism is okay? Maybe basso or this guy can shed some light on the issue.
More to the point, it is against the rules that Clutch has laid out. Southern Select, please follow the rules.
Yep. I've often thought of the government as just another corporation, but at least it's one I'm a shareholder in.
I'll take bureaucrats over companies when it comes to health care. Health care and profit motives don't mix at all. Corporations holding back on necessary care to save a buck on their bottom line doesnt synch with the goal of providing health care. I and many others on this board have experienced it first hand and it changed my view of health care as a whole. I think a national health insurance program has huge issues. I dont speak of this rationing nonsense or "government" choosing our health care. If Medicare has taught us anything, government health care has the potential for major fraud (and health care on a national basis will increase that exponentially) and it will turn into a political tool in which politicians will strategically add useless programs that function as wasteful spending or cut programs just because they wont to prove some point about fiscal responsibility. It'll become another political football to play with and a large one at that. But in the end, anything is better than the status quo and while I have serious issues with Obama's plan I'm ready to take anything at this point.
Some good news from the CBO debunking one of the republican talking point that reforming healthcare would lead to a federal takeover of the private health insurance marketplace. Gov't plan can coexist with private insurance
But, mc mark, Obama said "stupidly," and you know, the black professor was yelling. I don't think you're focused on the critical topic here.
