1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Most "Valuable" Player

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by franchise223, Oct 7, 2000.

  1. franchise223

    franchise223 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2000
    Messages:
    5
    Likes Received:
    0
    Who do you think is the most valuable player to their team. A player that the team could not do without.

    ------------------
     
  2. Steve_Francis_rules

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 1999
    Messages:
    8,467
    Likes Received:
    300
    Kevin Garnett

    ------------------
     
  3. BobFinn*

    BobFinn* Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2000
    Messages:
    11,438
    Likes Received:
    6
    Shaq

    ------------------
    In order to be a success in life, you need 2 things:
    1. Don't tell everything you know.
     
  4. heypartner

    heypartner Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 1999
    Messages:
    63,510
    Likes Received:
    59,002
    I'll give that an asterix...

    *
     
  5. The Cat

    The Cat Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2000
    Messages:
    20,823
    Likes Received:
    5,365
    Most valuable to their teams would be either Garnett, Shaq, or Malone. While Garnett and Shaq are the more obvious choices, Malone may be the most valuable of the three. The Jazz would be little to nothing without Malone. Everything they run goes through him.

    ------------------
    Looking for next year's Dan Langhi? Draftsource.net
    ClutchTown.com
    http://www.noarena.net
     
  6. Azim da Dream

    Azim da Dream Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 1999
    Messages:
    924
    Likes Received:
    5
    I hate to be cliche, but "Me, Myself and I"verson must be a serious consideration. Philly has some nice role players on that team, but The Answer means a heck of a lot to that team.

    Mourning and Payton would be up their on my list as well. And mark my words, in 12 months time, not only us, but NBA fans around the globe will be mentioning Steve Francis in the same breath as these great players.

    Azim da Dream

    ------------------
    We don't live for the destination. We live for the journey.
    http://www.clutchtown.com
     
  7. R0ckets03

    R0ckets03 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 1999
    Messages:
    16,326
    Likes Received:
    2,042
    Duncan
    Steve
    Garnett


    ------------------
    Fun Police Says:

    1. Stupid threads & Stupid BBS names are not FUN!
    2. Spelling, grammar, punctuation and sentence structure are not FUN!
    3. Conduct yourself in a FUN way!

    The Fun Police are Watching.
    Vote for the Rockets & Have FUN!

    REDSKINS SUCK!!!!!!!!
     
  8. jaworski2000

    jaworski2000 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2000
    Messages:
    77
    Likes Received:
    0
    Excuse me!!!! Karl Malone?? The most valuable player in their team. If you are talking about the most valuable player in the Jazz team, it must be John Stockton who makes everyone around him better. Karl Malone sucks. He's nothing. He's a mediocre power forward without Stockton.

    ------------------
    President of the Sir Charles Barkley Fan Club
     
  9. DREAMer

    DREAMer Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 1999
    Messages:
    2,173
    Likes Received:
    2
    I has to be Shaq. Have you seen the rest of that team?

    They have seven players who shot under .400

    Without out Kobe and Shaq no one on that team averages 5.0 rebounds.

    Shaq was second on the team in assists.

    The Lakers biggest weak spot is their power forward position, and if you take away their starting center, they have the weakest frontcourt in the NBA.

    ------------------
    I have a dream.........his name's Hakeem.
    DREAMer's Rocket Page
     
  10. The Cat

    The Cat Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2000
    Messages:
    20,823
    Likes Received:
    5,365
    Karl Malone is the best PF in the history of basketball. While Stockton has been a valuable player, saying that the difference between him being the greatest player in the history of his position to "sucking" because of one player is flat out ridiculous.

    ------------------
    Looking for next year's Dan Langhi? Draftsource.net
    ClutchTown.com
    http://www.noarena.net
     
  11. DJ

    DJ Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2000
    Messages:
    1,422
    Likes Received:
    469
     
  12. R0ckets03

    R0ckets03 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 1999
    Messages:
    16,326
    Likes Received:
    2,042
    But its more fun to say Karl Malone SUCKS!

    ------------------
    Fun Police Says:

    1. Stupid threads & Stupid BBS names are not FUN!
    2. Spelling, grammar, punctuation and sentence structure are not FUN!
    3. Conduct yourself in a FUN way!

    The Fun Police are Watching.
    Vote for the Rockets & Have FUN!

    REDSKINS SUCK!!!!!!!!
     
  13. Launch Pad

    Launch Pad Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 1999
    Messages:
    850
    Likes Received:
    10
    Okay, let me preface this by saying I hate Karl Malone. He is arrogant, rude(I met him during undergrad, when I waited on tables), and just plain stupid (e.g. remember the comments about Magic, when he first tested HIV-positive).

    With that said, Malone was clearly a superior player than Barkley. You are right about Barkley being a better rebounder, but the Chuckster has never had the work ethic of Malone, nor has he ever been even half the defender Malone was.

    Barkley also wasn't a very good team player through most of his career (though he was in the last couple of years in Phoenix and Houston). Malone, however, has been a great team player on both sides of the floor (he had to do a whole lot of those moving picks for the refs to get tired of calling them [​IMG] ).

    Malone is a thug, a punk, and a general @$$, but the man could play the game. Maybe if Barkley worked out as hard as Malone did, or maybe if Barkley focused a little on D, or maybe if Barkely was just another 4-5 inches taller . . .

    [​IMG]

    ------------------
     
  14. Dr of Dunk

    Dr of Dunk Clutch Crew

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 1999
    Messages:
    46,631
    Likes Received:
    33,631
    As much as I hate Malone, his antics, and sometimes how he plays the game, for anyone to say he's a mediocre PF without Stockton is just flat out wrong. The guy has talent with or without Stockton. Stockton may have made him better, but even without Stockton, he'd still be one of the 3-5 greatest PF's ever to play (instead of the 1 or 2 best).



    ------------------
    I got nothin'.
     
  15. R0ckets03

    R0ckets03 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 1999
    Messages:
    16,326
    Likes Received:
    2,042
    If Barkley had the work ethic of Malone or Jordan he would be considered maybe the top five player of all time. Charles was bad ass (my second favorite player of all time) but he let alot of his talent and potential go to waste. If he had reported in shape every year, Im sure he would have won a championship or two.

    ------------------
    Fun Police Says:

    1. Stupid threads & Stupid BBS names are not FUN!
    2. Spelling, grammar, punctuation and sentence structure are not FUN!
    3. Conduct yourself in a FUN way!

    The Fun Police are Watching.
    Vote for the Rockets & Have FUN!

    REDSKINS SUCK!!!!!!!!
     
  16. RocketsPimp

    RocketsPimp Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 1999
    Messages:
    13,812
    Likes Received:
    194
    Keith Closs.

    The Clippers couldn't suck so bad without him!

    [​IMG]

    Actually I would have to say Jason Kidd. He does so much for Phoenix that I think they would be a .500 team at best without him.

    ------------------
    Too often, we lose sight of life's simple pleasures.

    Remember, when someone annoys you it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, but it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and pimp-slap the mother****** upside the head!
     
  17. vj23k

    vj23k Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2000
    Messages:
    5,351
    Likes Received:
    46
    i also think chuck is better than malone. but back to the subject, i think that it is iverson, i despise him but damn the sixers would be horrible without him. Stevie also has to be up there. the rocks really wouldnt be much without him. also kidd, payton, shaq, and malone must be considred.
     
  18. rock

    rock Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 1999
    Messages:
    736
    Likes Received:
    1
    Malone has not missed many games in his career because he works really hard on conditioning/staying in shape.

    I would say: Malone, Duncan, Garnett and most of all Shaq.

    The Lakers are nothing without Shaq.

    Elvin Hayes was one of the best PF if not the best.



    ------------------
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now