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Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by htownbball, Jul 28, 2007.

  1. htownbball

    htownbball Member

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    these are from mlbtraderumors.com, which just reports what other journalists report.

    1. Seattle is interested in Jason Jennings and Wandy Rodriguez

    2. Colorado interested in Wheeler

    3. NYY interested in Wheeler and Qualls

    4. Astros may look to sign Loretta to an extension since Phils acquired Iguchi, SD got Hairston, and NYM may go with Easley, Anderson, and Gotay at 2B.

    5. Astros want position players in return for Wheeler or Qualls.

    I'm starting to think Bourn would need to be a Qualls/Bourn straight up deal. They're really high on him, and they should be.

    Wandy may be able to snag Wladimir Balentien if we include another player probably. Apparently Seattle is pretty high on him for some reason.
     
  2. JeopardE

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    Only because Wandy has been pretty dominant lately ...
     
  3. MadMax

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    1. mission accomplished for wheeler;

    2. according to an article i read yesterday...and posted here...the phils aren't interested in trading Bourn.
     
  4. codell

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    What?? :mad:

    Fire Purpura!
     
  5. MadMax

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    i know, right?

    i'm pissed we didn't get A-Rod for Wheeler!!! grrrrrr!!! :mad:
     
  6. codell

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    If Purpura wasn't fat he could!

    :mad:
     
  7. thephatp

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    What would Seattle be willing to give up?
     
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    Rumor has it that Seattle is dying to get rid of Ritchie Sexson. Of course he is batting .202 and makes $15.5MM annually. :eek:

    I'm not real sure what Seattle has, but I believe that they have a decent farm system. Wonder if they have a good catching prospect. That would be a good start. They would need to give a couple of MLB ready prospects if I were deciding whether to trade one of our starters. If we trade one of the starters, we have a huge hole to fill.
     
  9. htownbball

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    Padres interested in both Mark Loretta and Mike Lamb

    Philly interested in Jason Jennings

    id love to get bourn for jennings, but after today...philly is prolly not too high on him

    padres dont have much to offer, but i guess lamb and loretta really wont fetch too much.
     
  10. Zacatecas

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    I'd trade Lamb if I could sign Loretta to a long term deal. Loretta can play 1st, 2nd, SS, and 3B at a high level. I think he can even play Outfield pretty good.
     
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    I am getting sick to my stomach watching all of these teams making trades and getting players. I know the quality of these players are not all blue chip prosepcts, but atleast these teams are trading. I just have a bad feeling the trade deadline is going to come and go tommorrow and the Astros are going to play a pat hand.

    The Wiggington makes me more sick every time I think about it.
     
  14. htownbball

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    they need to trade lamb just to get something in return. deal him to LAA, who should be looking for a bat. ervin santana is still 24 and has upside even though he's struggled miserably this year. i really dont see why we traded for wiggy if we're gonna keep lamb or let him walk. he wont fetch much in compensation as far as draft picks go either, if that even matters since purpura wont sign anybody

    i think we're gonna keep loretta, since san diego doesnt even have many mid level prospects to offer, and use him in case burke scuffles next year as the starter. i would like to see us deal him though, preferably to cleveland for kelly shoppach. loretta wont stay in cleveland next year and would probably consider returning to houston
     
  15. BigTex

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    yeah ill be pist if purpura doesnt do something

    i was kind of wishing we could land 2b kelly johnson somehow. he has been splitting time with yunel escobar recently, the braves have plenty of hitting and need some pitchers (jennings or qualls perhaps)
    im sure the braves dont want to trade him, but i can dream cant i

    hes having a great year, 24 yrs old. hes from texas

    AB HR AVG RBI R SB
    349 10 .287 50 63 7
     
  16. Nick

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    Long term deal? How young do you think Loretta is?
     
  17. Hey Now!

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    trading for the sake of trading is always a bad idea. they're better off letting lamb and loretta leave and acquiring picks than dealing them for organization lifers. think of it this way - would you rather have a high round draft pick or jason lane?

    they don't have the resources to acquire guys like that; if a lamb and a jennings/qualls deal could fetch those two, purpura would have pulled the trigger on 3 weeks ago. hell, 3 months ago...

    look what position players are fetching this year (texeria aside): castillo landed AA and lo-A prospects; iguchi landed a lo-A prospect; lofton a hi-A prospect. even wiggington returned merely a middle reliever - would you deal lamb or loretta for a 7th/8th inning pitcher and be thrilled?

    the prospects may be good, but they're likely years away from seeing the majors.
     
  18. Nick

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    Agreed... the expectations of what we "should" be doing, vs. what can actually happen based on the players we have are ridiculously off.

    The ONLY player that will fetch a decent ransom is Lidge... given that he's the only arbitration eligible player we have that is a.) all-star calibur b.) actually having a good season, and c.) performs in a role that contending teams covet (closer/set-up).

    Loretta and Lamb are certainly valuable (to us)... but they won't be the biggest difference maker to whatever team lands them... and thus the value they will give up for them will be tempered. Same with Qualls, Jennings, Wandy, or anybody else the Astros choose to move.

    If you want a Texiera-like trade, you have to trade Texiera-like players... namely Berkman, Oswalt, Lee, or Pence.
     
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    While I agree that trading for othe sake of trading is a terrible idea, I can't help but think that trading someone that will likely walk at the end of the year is not that bad of an idea. Even if the prospects are years away, I think it's clear that we're not going to a make a run for the playoffs, and we're not going to make any trades that would suggest such. I don't think we're even close to "rebuilding". But since this year is blown, why not get a good prospect for practically nothing?
     
  20. RocketFan007

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    But if you let them walk in free agency, you get high draft picks in return. I think that's pretty much the same as dealing for a A level prospect now.
     

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