You know what the best part of the picture is? How the top of the ride looks like the top of the GA Dome.
Yeah ... just to playfully mock a friend of mine who has him in his fantasy league and is getting destroyed by him. I don't dislike Vick and I think he will eventually right the ship, but he has not been good this season. At one point in the third quarter today, Vick had totalled 3-14 passing for 30 yards (against the Chiefs). He finished 7-21 for 119 yards, 0 TDs and 2 INTs. Those numbers may eek out a home win over Arizona when your defense holds them to 3 points, but you're not going to beat too many other teams that way. Vick now has 4 touchdown passes TOTAL in 7 games, to go with 10 turnovers. To put that in to perspective, Daunte Culpepper has thrown for five touchdowns. In one game. Three times. This season alone.
And I don't get how a guy like Vick can't make it in the freaking West Coast offense. This ought to be elementary for him...easy to hit intermediate passes. I don't understand. Steve Young, the only player I can compare Vick to, excelled big time in the west coast system. I don't get it. Again...the premise of this thread when I started it was that he was overhyped. I don't think there's any question about that at this point.
Except, I don't think he is overhyped now. There's not a lot of hype surrounding Vick currently. Whenever you hear anything about him, it's about his struggles, not his potential.
really?? where?? yesterday on the CBS recap, they wouldn't even talk about it. Terrell Davis alluded to it saying that whenever he says anything bad about Vick people get so mad at him, so he wasn't going to say anything, but sat there with a smile on his face as if to say, "i told you so." Two weeks ago they did the whole, "who's the best young QB" deal and nearly every analyst picked Vick. I saw the highlights on Primetime last night...and they barely mentioned it...they focused instead on how awesome KC's running game is. I'd say he's largely getting a pass on this...which is fine...but he's still overyhyped, in my view.
I agree, 100%. If anyone watched the game yesterday, you could see just how much he is struggling. My opponent in fantasy had Vick on his team, so I had the opportunity to laugh my ass off every time Vick took a snap. Here are his QB ratings for the first 4 years of his career: 2001: 62.7 2002: 81.6 2003: 69.0 2004: 72.6 I remember all those debates about Carr vs. Vick.... Not even close at this point.
I see it all over the web...on CBS Sportsline and ESPN I've seen his struggles mentioned a lot. I couldn't watch the game yesterday due to my third funeral in the last 12 days, but the guys I was listening to were talking about his struggles a lot.
that's cool...i just haven't heard that at all. not on tv, anyway. not on the post-game shows. and terrell deliberately pointed out that from his perspective no one was talking about it, because if you did you would piss everyone off. raining on the NFL's annointed golden boy, i guess. i don't know. boomer smiled and nodded as he said that, but never said a word.
No offense, but don't look to tv to find criticism of the stars of the game. Up until this year, the "analysts" were still claiming Eddie and Emmitt still had something left in the tank. Internet and radio is where you will hear more frankness, along with constant b****ing.
If you want to see the value of Mike Vick you should be watching this game today. His team is hardly ever in a long yardage situation. He has what has to be one of the worst receiving corps in the league. What's his team's record again? We could pull this thread up week to week but it looks like his team will make the playoffs again with him, and they don't without him.
Yes, in what is a very weak NFC South Conference. Thanks to this game everybody will start latching back on his jock. It's just one game.
I love how when he does great it's "just one game" but let him do ****ty and its "see, he's a running back playing qb".
Vick is a magician running in the open field. I don't know if he will ever have the success of a Steve Young or other Championship caliber double threat QB....give him a couple years and a better supporting cast and we'll see. I think the key is he has to throw well enough to keep opponents from keying on his running dimension.
No, he has to show that he can be consistent over a season or even a small streak of gameswhich he hasn't shown. I've never said he was a running back playing quarterback. If he does great during one game then good that's one game but as Clutch said his stats so far over the season are not good at all.
I Understand you didn't say that but you and I both know that it is an argument that is made. Season stats Attempted 174 Completed 102 Percentage 59% yards 1390 TD's 6 INT's 6 Rating 81.3 yd.s rushing 463 avg per rush 7.1 Record 6-2 I understand that those aren't great numbers, but they're pretty good when you count his running. As far as consitancy, I see two games this year where he stunk up the joint. Last week at KC and week 3 at arizona otherwise his weekly qb rating's are 78.4 120.3 82.6 67.6 104.9 And this weeks 136.1
West Coast Offense = Ball Control, Ball Control, Ball Control. It's not pretty but it wins games. Michael Vick is an exceptional QB with speed never seen before at his level. Speaking as a Raider fan at the end of my wits, I'd give up everything I have to get him.
