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McCain Picks Palin

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by giddyup, Aug 29, 2008.

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  1. baller4life315

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    Playing the condescending "We can't lose" card won't get you anywhere. Just ask Hillary Clinton. This election just got interesting.
     
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    Honestly, out of Obama, Biden, McCain and Palin... only Palin has run anything...


    So... again... nice try, but advantage GOP.
     
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    There are more people in India and China than in the US.


    Your point?
     
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    People keep saying this puts the "experience" argument out of the picture.... I'm not so sure. Remember, it's McCain running against Obama and those are the two who's experience we should be judging.

    Also, it's interesting that the Obama/Biden ticket is running on a "change" platform when they are two rich guys who went to nice schools, are Washington insiders and are career politicians. That's kind of what we don't want, isn't it? Especially if you want something different. Now, at least one person of the four in this dance DOESN'T fit that stereotype.

    I would bet that Palin's life experience (not necessarily her beliefs) more closely match the people on this board more than any of the other players. She's the different candidate; the rest are all more of the same. Yes, including Obama.
     
  5. Lil Pun

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    And as I have stated before, why compare Obama to Palin or Biden to McCain? In saying that, I was comparing Obama to McCain and as you stated neither has ran anything. Thanks for trying.
     
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    Does that mean he put his COUNTRY first :confused: or his political ambitions? :rolleyes:
     
  7. Lil Pun

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    Are any of the candidates running for President of those countries?

    The point may be that running a state of less than a million for so little time is nothing like running the most powerful country in the world. What foreign policies has she had to worry about? National defense issues? Immigration issues? Dealing with such a diverse population? Etc.
     
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    Considering that she was Mayor of a town of less than 9000 people, and now 20 months on the job of a State that has a population smaller than many cities in Texas:

    In 2006 Alaska had an estimated population of 670,053, an increase of 6,392 (0.96%) from 2005 and 43,121 (6.9%) from 2000. In 2000 Alaska ranked 48th out of 50 states by population.[19] Alaska is the least densely populated state, at 0.42 people per square kilometer (1.1 per square mile), with the next state, Wyoming, at 1.97 (5.1 per square mile).

    I don't really see how her experience can be compared to Obama's, no matter how slim someone thinks his experience is. Her being Governoor of Alaska is similar to being Mayor of El Paso in population size. Maybe the economic budget or her role is different. Not trying to tear her down, but it frightens me that someone who said that in 2007 that they hadn't paid much attention to the war in Iraq would be one John McCain cancer attack away from leading the free world just one year later.
     
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    I think you forget that Biden is not rich. I just saw on the news the other day that his estimated net worth is between $100,000 to $150,000. If he went to a nice school, I'm sure he and his parents had to earn it since they are not wealthy.

    Obama may be wealthy NOW, but he comes from very middle income backgrounds, and poor at times. Remember his mother was on food stamps and working while at school all together at one point while raising him. He wasn't given a silver spoon to go to ivy league schools, he earned it. He and his wife both come from middle to lower income families. They gained their wealth from doing good in school, going to great colleges, doing well there, and then getting good jobs later. Obama only become a millionaire in the last couple of years from his book sales. Also how can he be a career policitian to you but yet doesn't have enough experience? :confused:
     
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    The governor of Alaska lol that's a joke.

    How many people are in Alaska? 670,053

    Popular presidents who were governors?

    Illinois population? 12,831,

    John f. Kennedy a sentor? No

    Lyndon B johnsom? No


    Abraham Lincoln? No


    Harry S. Truman? No



    George w bush? Yes

    Ronald Regan? Yes

    And this is what he did

    Was governor of California In order to cover new federal budget deficits, the United States borrowed heavily both domestically and abroad, raising the national debt from $700 billion to $3 trillion, [18] and the United States moved from being the world's largest international creditor to the worlds largest.
     
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    Great post, couldn't agree more. What kind of judgement does it say for someone that picks someone they have only meet twice and less than a few hours each to be second in line to run the greatest country on earth? :eek:

    To me it says that they are desparate to win and thinking of themselves more than the wellfare of the citizens of this great country. That alone would make me not vote for McCain. Maybe if he had really known this lady personally, but she was just not known much around the country, it would have been different for me. But his is a gambler and I tend to believe that he is a real HOTHEAD as most in Congress say about him. The way he spoke to Russia on the Georgia crisis leads me to believe that he is more likely to keep us in wars than out of wars because of his lack of ability to deploymatically negotiate settlements with other countries in our best interest. Since he can't win in negotiating, he will just blow his stack and attack. That's what I see in John ROLL THE DICE McCain. :(
     
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    Oh, guess how many HOURS or even MINUTES of foreign policy experience she has?


    Can you picture this women staring down any dictator in Feb. if McCain kicks the bucket in Jan?


    Honestly, how can McCain be this damn stupid? I wasn't pulling for him, but it's no way in hell do you put a soccer mom on the ticket with 0 experience on forging policy and we are in the middle of the war. This is an insult to Hillary if you ask me because she isn't having the politician that Hillary is.
     
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    LOL....I would agree with that.

    But John McCain's judgment says that this woman is the best republican candidate available to be president if something happens to him! :eek: Republicans should feel insulted. That's taken nothing away from Palin, maybe she is great. I am not putting her down. But John McCain said he WOULD pick the best candidate that he could find to run the country in the unfortunate event that something happened to him; and that he would put his country FIRST. Maybe he believes he has down that. But I think he just "DOESN'T GET IT", if he believes she is more qualified than all the other republicans out there. I don't know how some of the commentators get on tv and act like they believe she is the best qualified as well. You can see how they continously sidestep the question and try to point out things like she's a hockey mom with five kids and one with downs syndrome whom she refused to abort. That's great, but not enough to be the most powerful leader in the world, imho. :(
     
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    Obama needs to go after this...I see McCain would rather win an election then to put his country first. If he really cares about this country he could at least pick women with a little more experience then this. People wake up! This dude is 73 and he has a former beauty pageant contestant with 0 foreign policy experience as his president.
     
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    I'm glad there exists people like you that can see this even though they were for McCain and not just take a blind eye due to partisanship.

    Her role in getting that dude fired is exactly the same as the Bush administrations inquiries now into all the firings and non hires that they did, which ARE ILLEGAL! Once this issue really hits the public, it could alone be the end for her as a viable candidate.

    McCain really likes to gamble. I wonder how he does in Vegas. :rolleyes:
     
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    MSM needs to get this audio. All radio stations save their recordings.

    http://www.adn.com/opinion/story/295464.html

    It's becoming damn apparent that they really didn't vet this lady at all.
     
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    I mean if he would have picked Kay Bailey Hutchinson, I would have called that a smart and intelligent choice, although still pandering, but still wise.

    But this is a joke! This man and his judgment is not fit to even remain in congress, let alone lead this country as president! :mad:
     
  18. Lil Pun

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    Well expect more things to be uncovered on Palin. Nobody was even thinking of her, not even McCain.
     
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    And more apparent that John McCain is a joke for president. Only die hard republicans who would vote for even Putin if he was nominated in their party would support this man and his temper and judgment. Any of the other republican candidates would have been a better candidate that I might not have voted for, but could accept as president.

    Anyone that doesn't believe that McCain puts winning over the country's interest is in LA LA LAND. But I'm sure his logic suggests to him that him winning is in the country's best interest, regardless of if something ever happens to him or not, because he probably believes he will live to be over 100 and nothing can stop him. :rolleyes:
     
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    Reading all these replies is giving me pause. Of the four -- Obama, McCain, Biden and Palin -- I find that I like Palin the best, followed by Biden with Obama and McCain almost dead even. I am swayed by the Democratic argument for health care reform but the Republicans on energy policy. McCain would be far, far more able in the game of foreign intrigue, but Obama would mend fences with allies faster and better.

    This debate over experience has given me second thoughts. Obama has only 143 days of Senate experience with no major legislation passed or even proposed. Most of those days have been spent chasing the Presidency.

    Obviously, McCain and Biden are very experienced, but McCain is at the top of his ticket. However, both are rooted in politics of the past and in the D.C. way of doing things.

    Palin is far more experienced in administration that Obama -- she has been the top executive on local and state administration, regardless of the size because the problems are the same as a large state -- just not on as large a scale. Harry S Truman didn't even have that much administrative exerience and he did fine. So, if some health issue forces a transition, she would be more capable of dealing with administrative issues than Obama while understanding the needs of us non-Harvard types.
     
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