with all of this recent webber hating, why not go after marc?? he's a reliable big man that could give u 12pts. 10 rebs. a game.i also think he would be cheaper than hakeem, even though i wouldn't mind seeing the dream back here. Marc!! Marc!! Marc!! ------------------ signed: "The First Asian President"
I consider him the next Geiger, Austin, Cato, Reeves, take your pick of overpaid center. I however am the only one who exists with the opinion. Great guy for 1.1mil. ------------------ Ziggy
I'm with you Ziggy -- he reminds me of Ike Austin. ------------------ CC.net's most courteous driver Oh yeah, and I'm looking for a job right now, so hire me please
I completely disagree, this is a big, physical center. Marc Jackson has been a physical player since his days at Temple, where he played 3 years before leaving early. He is the perfect roleplaying big man, he isn't a fluke. He won't be an all-star, or a great player, but he'll be a good, physical presence under the basket. He is a solid rebounder, has a nice touch around the basket, and has a strong work ethic. That is one of the reason that John Chaney recruited him, and he worked his behind off over seas to get back to the NBA. That alone proves he isn't another Bryant Reeves or Ike Austin. Those players game an style are COMPLETELY different from Marc Jackson's. ------------------ "Win if you can, lose if you must but always cheat!" - Jesse Ventura
He reminds me of Dean Garrett. He's never going to be a big time center but he can bang, rebound and has a soft touch. IMO, he would be an upgrade over Cato if for no other reason than he would probably cost about half what Cato does. ------------------ How the hell should I know why God would allow the Holocaust. I don't even know how the electric can opener works. - from Hannah and Her Sisters
This is my first post so I will try not to ruffle any feathers, and if I do, politely let me know and I will refrain from such callous behavior in the future. Marc Jackson has something Ike Austin, Big Country, Cato, {insert favorite Benoit Benjamin impersonater here}, don't have and that is TOUCH. His .467 shooting percentage last season with the Warrirs is deceiving in that most of his shots were mid to long range jumpers. I'm not saying that he didn't get his fair share of put backs and dunks, I mean at 6-10, 270 you can't help but find yourself underneath the basket with the ball from time to time, but the dude really liked to hang out on the perimeter, clear out the lane for Antawn and Larry and wait for the kick-out. (Gee why do I think that might be a pretty good attribute for any perspective Rockets center.) I picked up the guy on the waiver wire in my fantasy league after he posted consecutive 20 point scoring games when Dampier went down, so I can tell you that I watched him very closely last season. He is not a great leaper, but he still managed to average 11.7 rebounds and 1.8 blocks per game as a starter. A big reason for that was the minutes. He consistently logged 40+ minutes and was able to do so because he stayed out of foul trouble. You've just gotta respect a 270 pound guy who can run for 40 minutes a night and plays smart. Now I know we are talking about a fairly small sample size here, so I can see why the camparisons to Ike Austin abound, but he seems like a much more well-rounded player than any of the guys mentioned in this thread. I would love to have Jackson, but, he is a restricted free agent, meaning the Warriors can free up some cap space and pay him much more than any other team could. I am not as knowledgeable on the CBA as a lot of you are so I don't really know the specifics beyond that. As far as convincing the guy to come to Houston, I think it would be a pretty easy sell. Something like "Yo Marc, last time I checked Golden State had Erick Dampier, Danny Fortson, and Adonal Foyle on their roster. We've got Kelvin Cato and Jason Collier. You wanna play a lot next season?" What do you guys think of Nazr Mohammed. I'm prety sure he's a free agent as well. ------------------ [This message has been edited by Buck Johnson (edited June 30, 2001).]
John Amechi worked hard and has a shot. You can speculate that MJ is better on the boards but who wouldnt rebound in GS. ------------------ Ziggy
Both Buck and Ziggy have made good points,but rebounding is one of our greatest weaknesses,I wish that Marc Jackson was an enforcer type which he isn't but he is hard working and his shooting,rebounding and touch in the paint could prove to be valuable to us. ------------------
The talent pool for centers in the NBA is very shallow. If you can get a solid big man who both fits the offensive system and fills a specific need, then do it! Even if he plays zero defense, he is a huge improvement over Cato. ------------------ I'm so amazingly cool you could keep a side of meat in me for a month. I am so hip that I have difficulty seeing over my pelvis.
Id rather take the chance on Pollard. At least he is crazy and can compete with Mooch in the hair department. ------------------ Ziggy
I don't know if Pollard is able to play more than about 20 mins per night at most, but he really plays hard out there. He has bad defense, and little offense, but he rebounds very well, and puts 110% into his game. Personally, I really, really like Brad Miller. He works hard on the glass, has a bit of offense and is a strong defender. He's not a good shotblocker, but he's a very physical, very strong guy. Every game I watch him in, he's out there getting offensive rebounds everywhere. Reminds me of Othella Harrington, with less offense but more strength and defense. ------------------ CC.net's most courteous driver Oh yeah, and I'm looking for a job right now, so hire me please
At the same time though arent will still stuck with Crapo? Jackson could be a bust or a solid center. Only time will tell... Isnt he pretty old also? Considering he was a rookie. ------------------ Reporter asks "How close were you to the victim?" Shorty says,"Real close until the roofies wore off. Then she woke up talking about pressing charges, so I took my tongue out of her ass and left." Shorty - Marlon Wayans "Scary Movie" Go Rockets!!! SS
I would like Jackson if we can get rid of Cato. If we sign Jackson, we would then have 4 centers if we sign Dream as well. That is too many even if one of them is Cato. ------------------ Stevierebel
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I bet Collier never plays more than Cato even though he needs to develop and Walt Williams will probably be back with legit pt. ------------------ Ziggy
How come people would want Brad Miller when Marc Jackson has shown more potential!? Jackson isn't soft, he is tough, and he is a solid rebounder and scorer around the basket, works hard, and is consistent. He worked his way into the league literally the same way Mario Elie did. ------------------ "Win if you can, lose if you must but always cheat!" - Jesse Ventura
I think Marc Jackson is a good player. However, if we do re-sign Maurice Taylor and Hakeem leaves, we would have a problem with Marc Jackson at Center. The reason: He is not a good shotblocker. Shotblocking is underestimated sometimes. If you do not have someone in the paint who intimidates these little quick guards, you will have a problem because they will all try to go there all the time. ------------------ Rockets' offseason tasks in order of priority: Get rid of Cato under any circumstances. Sign Chris Webber. Re-Sign Hakeem. Re-Sign Moochie and AirBullard. Pick up the Langhi option for another year. Trade for Bo Outlaw and Raef LaFrentz. .....-'-. ../`.....|__ /`....--`-,-` '-|`...o.'<-....[] ..\....._\__).\=` ...C_..`....,_/ .....|.;----' come back with your original name...now that everyone is changing their screen names anyway
Marc played one decent year on a pretty bad team. If he was willing to accept $5 million each of the next 2 years, then I'd consider it, but only if Hakeem refused to be reasonable with his contract demands. ------------------ Anger is a weed. Hate is a tree.
His pedigree is in his favor... John Chaney doesn't put up with lazy bums, so I'm not too worried about a Cato-esque disappearance after signing a contract. ------------------ Clutchcity.net... source for all your Rockets, Astros, political, music, humor, and Gordita news.
Buck Johnson, the reason Marc Jackson rarely committed fouls last year is that he rarely played defense. A scouting report from some of my previous posts this year: The question is, will someone offer Jackson a long-term deal starting at $5M or more? The shooting touch is certainly worth paying for, and he rebounds OK, but he's too short and too slow to defend centers. I think that on a good team, he's a really, really good backup C/PF, like Chris Gatling or what Ike Austin was in Miami. Position-wise, he's more of a PF that can play center ... he is 6'10", but doesn't have the long arms, vertical leap, or defensive agility to guard bigger players effectively. And he's probably too slow to thrive defensively as a starting PF. ------------------
