I suspected something was wrong when I saw some serious fitting gaps between the lens and the frame (granted that might not be a manufacturing problem, but it at least tipped me off something was wrong) and I was even more alarmed by how flimsy the nosepads felt... thats when I started looking at them closer... and now the nosepad has already fallen off. Coincidence or not... I don't have an axe to grind with China.
you should have bought some Ray Bans dude. you can always mail them back to Ray Ban and they'll fix whatever problems you have.
I think you have to judge everything on case by case basis. Brands want to protect themselves, therefore if they want to maintain a good brand, they will have to put out a quality product. It doesn't matter where something is made, if the brand cares about it's image, it will hold stringent standards (and be willing to pay a little more) and pass the cost to customers. If the company doesn't care, they will either still charge a brand premium while not holding up the same standards. However, these things comes back and will haunt the brand. It's really your fault for not doing the research and evaluate the quality of your product before hand. READ reviews and inspect everything before any big purchase items. The small purchase items, who cares
just got back from my reading class. the teacher said you conflated craftsmanship and materials. he said it's because you said sunglasses were exclusively about craftsmanship in one sentence, and then in the next sentence you said materials make up far more of the quality of sunglasses than in, say, an iphone. i said that was impossible, because nowhere did you say they "required" more. but then he quoted the exact moment where you conflated craftsmanship and materials: sucks that your glasses broke, but it sucks even more that you tried to call out somebody's reading skills by quoting a word ("required") that they never actually used.
everything is made in china these days, donnymost, so i guess you should throw out most of the things you own
LOL. I think you may commit suicide when you find out that many of "high end" designer fashion stuff "made in Italy" are actually made by Chinese in Italy. Try to find out how many fabric boutiques in Milan are operated by Chinese.
Please watch "Last Train Home". you will understand that everything that we consume is made in China. the documentary is based on the life of family working in the textile industry.
Craftsmanship: noun 1. Skill in an occupation or trade 2. An ability that has been acquired by training Craftsman: noun 1. Someone who practices a craft with great skill. So tell me, what do the materials with which one creates something have to do with the skill that one uses to put it together? Answer: They don't. They are exclusive from one another. The "occupation or trade" I am talking about is putting the item together, not engineering/deciding what materials to use. Someone can exude great craftsmanship on something which is made of poor materials. So you never used the word "require"...? I think you need to go talk to your teacher again.
yes...we're in agreement here. hence why i used the term "conflating." your quote clearly implied that the two are somehow related; so either you were wrong then, are contradicting yourself now, or you simply aren't saying what you think you're saying. once more, and i will spell it out a little more clearly for you: you first say sunglasses depend more on craftsmanship than electronics. you then explicitly state that materials matter more in sunglasses than in an iphone. you either conflated the terms or you are now talking in circles, because you are now implying that the materials don't matter for sunglasses. if you meant to talk solely about craftsmanship, you never should have brought up materials in the first place. and even if we're just talking about craftsmanship, it's still laughable that sunglasses are "more dependent" (sorry, you're right that i wrongly conflated this phrase with "required"; they clearly have totally different meanings) on craftsmanship than high-end electronics. trust me, the margin on your designer sunglasses, net of labor and cost of goods, is much, much higher than on your iphone.
In terms of what constitutes the value of each product, there are only two things (IMO) for sunglasses, craftsmanship and materials. Whereas with electronics (esp comps and phones), there are far more factors that make up their value. In other words, the importance of the materials is greater for the sunglasses than it is for the (electronic device), simply because of how few/many factors make up the value of each product, respectively. On the surface it sounds contradictory, but the two ideas are not incompatible if you look closer ("almost exclusively about craftsmanship" was meant to imply that there are fewer factors for sunglasses). Apparently you think they are. Sorry, but we're just not going to see eye to eye on this one. And one other thing, are you getting paid every time you use the word "conflate"?
Don't forget about another value of your sunglasses product: the brand. Sounds like that's what you paid for -- the brand. Gotta look under the hood sometimes brah
I bought a garment bag and suitcase from Tumi last week and just found the "Made in China" label. My old Tumi suitcase was made in USA and it was very well made. Now that I'm comparing the two side by side, this Chinese one definitely is a couple notches lower in quality. Considering how expensive this was.. WTF?! I just want to return this and pay the extra for Rimowa, Briggs and Riley, or Globetrotter. At least those are made in Germany or England.
