Additional thoughts: Dr. Chang's baby - I believe that is going to turn out to be Miles. Hawking's computer was running a slew of coordinates, then popped up a map of the globe, Pacific-centric, with 10 probable island locations on it. One was in the Indian Ocean, One near the Bering Strait, the rest in the South Pacific (including what seemed like the most recent location). Be interesting to know exactly what it was charting. With the dart gun being used on Sayid, I highly doubt the person behind the attack wanted them dead. I'm pretty suspicious of Ben, what with the safehouse getting compromised and him showing up at Hurley's (Jack only mentioned Sayid over the phone). I subscribe to the idea that Locke is the reason Sayid and Ben had a falling out off the island. It's rough how with each big episode you have to go back and reevaluate so much from the previous seasons. Knowing why and when Jack tried to commit suicide, for example. I'm no longer thinking Ben time traveled at all last season when he called upon Smokey. I knew he didn't go to Tunisia then, but him confronting Widmore did seem to fit at the time. I'm not so sure anymore. He was dressed exactly as he dressed in this episode. I'm now thinking that went down in the recent past relative to this episode. Some people are saying Hawking is Desmond's mother. I'd be surprised, especially if she's in LA while Desmond's going to Oxford. I definitely believe that Jack will eventually become Jacob. Evan
Ms. Hawking. She was in those episodes after Desmond blew up the hatch and started having visions. http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Ms._Hawking
To me, that was the funny apart about listening to Hurley try to explain to his Mom what had happened. Who watches the show hasn't gone through something like that trying to explain what's going on to someone who hasn't been watching?
Well, it was a little underwhelming, IMHO...I found myself flipping channels to Lie to Me, which was aight... Every show is about space and time nowadays...
For those who want to do some more research on what Faraday was talking about. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novikov_self-consistency_principle
If you flip, you're not a fan, which is completely alright, as this show can be taxing on the mind. I, personally, love the fact that this show has already been written in full, as in, there will be an end next season, and the writers asked for this a season ago. There is something really fascinating about wondering where it is going, and what it all means. Let's just all hope to God that it doesn't end the way the Matrix trilogy did. I'm thinking the writers on Lost hopefully learned the lesson of Matrix, Dallas, Jail Break, et. al. I, personally, get more fascinated by the show, only because I know there is a specific end date. If this was renewed constantly, I'd have given up by now, but I want the "paydirt." Jail Break, sadly, was written well enough that the ratings allowed future seasons, even though it was meant to be a two season show. Now, it has become so r****ded, I don't even care to watch, anymore.
I still watch Prison Break, but it NEEDS to end. It's so far from what made the 1st season so great it's not even funny. I love that the producers of Lost forced ABC to agree to a time table. Season 3 was probably the worst one because they began putting in BS filler episodes (Nikki and Paulo) because ABC wanted to draw it out. Having a fixed ending point allowed them to cut through the BS and plot how everything is going to play out.
The weirdest part is in how both shows were produced. I recall, when both came out, how they were saying that Prison Break was a better written show because it had a specific end to the whole thing in two seasons, whereas LOST was simply writing things as they came along. I actually sat through that second season to see what would occur. As you recall, in season two, they were killing off regulars left and right. Then, apparently, Fox went and told them to extend it, and that killed it for me. Create a new Prison Break, if you must, even include the same actors. But if you tell me there is an ending, then do it. LOST, on the other hand, has handled new technology brilliantly. They actually took some crackpot scenario's off of bloggers ideas and incorporated awesome theories into the ending. It is brilliant, and, honestly, something I think the Wachovia brothers would do if they hadn't decided to do both 2 and 3 simultaneously with The Matrix trilogy. I still think they should do Matrix: Resurrected, where you begin right after the 2nd, only with much better plot and theology. But that's just wishful thinking, for now...
I don't know who "they" refers to, but they were wrong as far as LOST goes. They knew how the show was going to play out from the beginning, and are on record that specific things are included in the first season that are relevant to the end of the show. They did start tossing in filler in the second half of season 2 and first half of season 3 to ride the ratings, so in that sense they were just making stuff up as they went along. But in terms of what the island is, what the central conflict is, what will take place to resolve the conflict.....all this was cemented in season 1. It's very good that the producers/ABC agreed on a fixed timetable - otherwise, the filler & "keep everything a total mystery" holding pattern was going to kill the show and force them to end things in a rushed manner as cancellation loomed. Evan
Something of note regarding that point, the nature of the matrix "formula" is that this "free radical remainder" (*the one) occurs regularly after so many computations of the matrix are executed. So, technically... they could do it all again... differently... better... and not have to explain themselves too much... without "re-doing" anything at all.
After tonight, I'm 100% sure Daniel's mother Spoiler Is Ms. Hawking, whom we saw at the end of the previous episode. 1. She's Brittish. 2. In the "enhanced" replay, it said her first name was Eloise. 3. In the episode "The Constant", Daniel had named the rat the ran the maze "Eloise". And another spoiler related to that one. Spoiler The girl "other" that captured them was named "Ellie" and Daniel said she looked familiar. Guess who? And in case you forgot: In one of the Locke-centric episodes from last season we saw Richard visit a 5 year old Locke. We can presume he did so because of the encounter we saw tonight. Richard showed Locke 6 objects and asked him to identify which of the objects was already his. One of the objects was a compass, which he inspected, but he ended up choosing a knife and failed the test. I guess we know now that the compass was the right answer. So I'm guessing that Desmond, Penny, and baby Charlie are headed to LA. Ben told Widmore last season that he was going to kill Penny as revenge for Alex's death. Ben's in LA. I smell a confrontation.
Great episode. Spoiler Fun that you are focused on Ellie the whole time on 1950's island and then they hit you with Widmore at the end. A whole new can of worms gets opened with that.
That's why it was fun - while everyone is contemplating details that don't mean anything, they move the show forward with a direct hit.
