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Lost: Season 4

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  1. Cannonball

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    I think I read and interview with the producers where they said they are definitely going to show who's in the casket this season.
     
  2. emjohn

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    Right - they've toyed with us for weeks as far as how the Oc6 are brought together and leave.
    Hurley has Aaron when Team Freighter attacks....but gives him to Sawyer and stays with Locke
    Kate takes Aaron to the beach, but leaves him to go back after Jack
    Sayid takes the boat for to bring people over...but joins Kate to chase Jack/Sawyer
    If the freighter blows, Sun's obviously not on it...which means Michael, Jin, and Desmond don't necc have to die either.

    Plenty points to Michael: he's already taken on fake names (obit read "Ted"), it was a black neighborhood, obit said he committed suicide and was survived by a son, Kate and Jack's convo revealed that he wasn't a real friend.

    ...but....
    Why would his death hit Jack that hard and be the final nail to convince him they have to return?
    It was a short casket....
    MAYBE, it could have been Benry that died. The son part doesn't fit, but Jack may realize after they return that he was wrong to fight Ben so stubbornly (calling in the freighter), and his death would weigh on his conscience. Maybe.

    Evan
     
  3. Cannonball

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    Maybe if Michael commits suicide, it means that the island is finally done with him. Maybe it means that the island is done needing any outside help at all which would presumably diminish his chances of ever finding it again. The island allowing Michael to die means it's less likely he'll ever get back.
     
  4. Cannonball

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    Forgot to add that by this point Jack was already popping pills, getting drunk, and using the Oceanic Golden Pass in hopes of crashing again. He already wanted to go back to the island even before reading that obituary.
     
  5. steddinotayto

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    Um...he started popping pills after Kate's trial, which is after his father's funeral.

    1. Get back to civilization
    2. Father's wake
    3. Defend Kate
    4. Tap Kate's ass
    5. See GhostDad
    6. Lose trust in Kate
    7. Pop Pills
    8. Last season finale's meeting with Kate
     
  6. Cannonball

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    Yeah, that's what I said. By the time we reach last seasons finale Jack was already at the end of his rope. My point was I don't think that "mystery man's" death drove him to want to go back to the island. He already had maps scattered over his apartment and he flew on Oceanic every weekend. But the wake did make him go and seek out Kate who obviously had no interest in returning. Maybe he should have sought out Hurley instead because Hurley believes they never should have left in the first place.
     
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    I think the reason why he wanted to go back is because he realized his life back in civilization isn't any better than life was on the island. I don't remember who it was (Sawyer, Locke or Ben I forgot) asked him:

    "Why are you so anxious to get off this island?"

    I think if Jack didn't have his hero complex and didn't have his life threatened by the island/guys from the ship/others/Ben, he wouldn't mind stay there. It's because he "promised to get these people off the island". He had nothing back home waiting for him other than his mom at best. Jack finally realized that maybe they were right: he's better off on the island.
     
  8. Dubious

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    I think for Penny Widmore is lying about being Claire's Mom. She certainly did not raise Claire; she was in Scotland during her relationship with Desmond. No straight up statement like that in the history of the show ever turns out to be the truth. I think she is planting the seed to make future claims on Aaron. "I am his true grandmother, you are not related to him, I can give him everything in life, give him to me".

    Piak motors is an international, general manufacturing corporation (that had some financial relationship with Dharma) A settlement from an airlines is not going to buy a controlling interest in a corporation that large. Think of the value of something like Mitsubishi. A company like that could buy and sell whole airlines. What could the settlement be? $5,000,000?
    Pshaw on that story line.

    We can't hazard a guess right now how the separate characters that be come the Ocianic six come to leave the island. We just don't have enough information yet. Right now they are in vastly different locations and situations.

    I think Ben arranges for Nadia to meet Sayyid...to set up the frame job on her future murder that nets Ben the assassin he needs to attack Widmore's organization. How else would she just pop up in America, though I guess she was an anti-Saddam dissident. She might have been given asylum.
     
  9. Cannonball

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    That wasn't Penny. That was Carole, Claire's mother. She appeared in Claire's flashback episode where we found out Christian Sheppard was Claire's father. She and Penny look nothing alike. Maybe you mistook her Australian accent for Brittish.
     
  10. Cannonball

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    I forgot to mention that in that flashback episode, she was played by a different actress and had a nonspeaking role. But the character was there.
     
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    Well, from Jack's flash-forward episode where he is married to Kate, we know Kate contacted Sawyer, who was presumably still on the island (Jack says something to the effect of, "He chose to stay").

    Also, for the person wondering about the appendix scar:

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    We don't really know that Kate contacted Sawyer. We know she was talking to someone on the telephone (but we don't know who for certain) and she later admitted to Jack she was out doing something for Sawyer. But we don't know the details or when her promise was made.
     
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    Dang, I thought she said her name :confused:

    Did we ever see Christian have a relationship with this woman?
     
  14. kikimama

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    I stopped watching this show after I found out they don't really have a timeline of things to happen. They just keep adding and adding. There was no definitive plan, so it feels like the show is making stuff up without a real goal. Kills the series for me.
     
  15. emjohn

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    Well, you're wrong, but enjoy watching whatever else instead.
     
  16. Cannonball

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    In that flashback, Claire and her mom get into an auto accident. Both survive but her mom ends up in a coma. Later, Christian shows up and takes care of all the medical bills. He then tells Claire that he's her father whom she had believed to be dead. He tells her that she was a result of a fling that he had with her mother and that he had visited her when she was a baby. Claire's mother and aunt were resentful of Christian because he had a family in the US and discouraged him from continuing to have contact with Claire.

    Christian went to Australia this last time after he had his medical license revoked for operating on a patient while intoxicated. He, with Ana Lucia in tow, tried to make contact with Claire again but was turned away by Claire's aunt. He then met Sawyer in a bar and shortly afterwards died of a heart attack likely brought on from have too high of a blood alcohol content.

    The weird thing is that Claire's mother was still in a coma when she boarded the plane. There was very little hope she'd ever come out of it. So she must have woken up in that 108 days between the crash and the rescue.
     
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    I just assumed it had something to do with Sawyer's daughter, Clementine.

    My theory: The other person responsible for Jin's "death" was Sun herself.

    As for the Orchid, here's the orientation video:

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  18. Uprising

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    WOW. I'm late to this party, but damn that was a good episode.
     
  19. oomp

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    I just watched this last night.

    I felt like it wasn't as good of an episode as everyone else did. It was like they added this episode to the finale because of the writer's strike. The last segment was "What will happen to our heroes?" played out to the fullest.

    It looks like now is the time for Michael to get that briefcase... BOOM!

    :eek:
     
  20. Hayesfan

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    :confused: There is still one more two hour episode at the end of the month on the 29th. So this wasn't the finale.

    I thought it revealed a lot about what is going on as well as what's to come. Whenever we get revolutions in this series I count that as a good episode. :)
     

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